Let's vote! EdB
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > Vote is required according to [1] > > [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#new-mailing-list > > On 5/28/13 11:45 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: > >>Shouldn't everyone be able to subscribe? Or are you saying that but >>did I miss it... ;-) >> >>EdB >> >>On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:32 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala >><bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Okay, moving to a new thread. >>> >>> Do we need a vote for this or is there sufficient consensus in the >>> community? >>> >>> We dont want to lose people because of all the spam that gets generated >>>by >>> the JIRA emails. That should be a big priority for us. >>> >>> The proposal is: >>> >>> 1. Create a list: j...@flex.apache.org. >>> 2. All JIRA emails generated by >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX will >>> go to j...@flex.apache.org >>> 3. No JIRA emails will be sent to dev@flex.apache.org >>> 4. We add all committers and PMC members to the j...@flex.apache.org >>>list >>> 5. When a new committer/PMC member is inducted, we add them to the >>> j...@flex.apache.org as one of the setup activities. >>> >>> Any comments/suggestions? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Om >>> >>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> >>>wrote: >>> >>>> +1 on the JIRA on another list, do we need a vote on that, or can we >>>> just ask INFRA for it? >>>> >>>> Maybe this discussion should be in a separate thread, however... >>>> >>>> EdB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski >>>><nicho...@spoon.as> >>>> wrote: >>>> > I would prefer JIRA activity to be on another list. I've heard from >>>> quite >>>> > a few people in my User Group that they dropped off dev@ people of >>>>the >>>> > noise of JIRA. I think those of us who want to know what is >>>>committed >>>> > will subscribe to those (plus, it makes filtering those messages >>>>into a >>>> > separate folder easier ;P ) >>>> > >>>> > -Nick >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 5/28/13 10:25 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gred...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of >>>>being >>>> >> >> integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project? >>>>Personally, >>>> >> >>I'd >>>> >> >> be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of >>>>Flex-related >>>> >> >>code >>>> >> >> even if there is no active development for it. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >There's a couple of things to consider here: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >1) The board does not favor "umbrella" projects. Jakarta was an >>>> umbrella >>>> >> >project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons, >>>>JMeter, >>>> >> >and >>>> >> >a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the >>>> Jakarta >>>> >> >community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all >>>>those >>>> >> >projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here. >>>> >> That would make sense for Jakarta, especially if there was active >>>> >> development on all of those pieces. I'm not sure that will be the >>>>case >>>> >> here. I think there's a good chance that these application >>>>frameworks >>>> may >>>> >> not have much activity. >>>> >> >>>> >> For me, incubation was so much work that it seems easier to take >>>>these >>>> >> code donations and see if a community forms around it and then spin >>>>it >>>> off >>>> >> than going through the whole >>>> >> proposal/initial-committers/mentors/infra-setup/graduation process. >>>> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> >2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow. >>>> Practically, >>>> >> >we >>>> >> >could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple >>>> projects. >>>> >> >It >>>> >> >seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different >>>>efforts, >>>> like >>>> >> >getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be >>>>that >>>> we >>>> >> >need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact >>>> >> >sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to avoid >>>> point 1 >>>> >> >above. >>>> >> What are your thoughts on just having more mailing lists? We toyed >>>>with >>>> >> the notion of having all JIRA activity on a different list. I >>>>haven't >>>> >> looked at the stats, but Erik and I haven't done much >>>> >> Falcon/FalconJX/FlexJS work over the last two weeks and I'm not sure >>>> >> there's been less activity on the dev list. >>>> >> >>>> >> -Alex >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ix Multimedia Software >>>> >>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27 >>>> 3521 VB Utrecht >>>> >>>> T. 06-51952295 >>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl >>>> >> >> >> >>-- >>Ix Multimedia Software >> >>Jan Luykenstraat 27 >>3521 VB Utrecht >> >>T. 06-51952295 >>I. www.ixsoftware.nl > -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
