It's going to make filtering the emails a lot easier now... gmail does a poor job compared to my outlook.
-Mark On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: > Agreed. Committers are committing, so they want to track the issues > they work on anyways, I'm sure. If they hate being kept up to date so > much, they can always unsubscribe. This is not a big thing, it's just > a mailing list. > > EdB > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:58 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski < > nicho...@spoon.as>wrote: > > > >> I don't think we need to auto-add committers... Let them add themselves, > >> incase they either don't want the notices (and view them via RSS direct > >> from JIRA), or they want to use another email address. It should be a > >> public list so anybody could join if they want. > >> > >> -Nick > >> > >> > > What if no one subscribes to this list? Or what if a few people > subscribe > > and then they all go inactive? > > The reason we need to auto-add committers is that we want to make sure > that > > a committed set of people are always watching JIRA activity. I dont see > a > > way to do this without adding all committers automatically. > > > > It should be easy enough for all email clients to create a per email > filter > > (j...@flex.apache.org) in this case. > > > > Thanks, > > Om > > > > > > > >> > >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > >> <bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >> > Okay, moving to a new thread. > >> > > >> > Do we need a vote for this or is there sufficient consensus in the > >> > community? > >> > > >> > We dont want to lose people because of all the spam that gets > generated > >> by > >> > the JIRA emails. That should be a big priority for us. > >> > > >> > The proposal is: > >> > > >> > 1. Create a list: j...@flex.apache.org. > >> > 2. All JIRA emails generated by > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX will > >> > go to j...@flex.apache.org > >> > 3. No JIRA emails will be sent to dev@flex.apache.org > >> > 4. We add all committers and PMC members to the > jira@flex.apache.orglist > >> > 5. When a new committer/PMC member is inducted, we add them to the > >> > j...@flex.apache.org as one of the setup activities. > >> > > >> > Any comments/suggestions? > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Om > >> > > >> > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > +1 on the JIRA on another list, do we need a vote on that, or can we > >> > > just ask INFRA for it? > >> > > > >> > > Maybe this discussion should be in a separate thread, however... > >> > > > >> > > EdB > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski < > >> nicho...@spoon.as > >> > > > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > I would prefer JIRA activity to be on another list. I've heard > from > >> > > quite > >> > > > a few people in my User Group that they dropped off dev@ people > of > >> the > >> > > > noise of JIRA. I think those of us who want to know what is > >> committed > >> > > > will subscribe to those (plus, it makes filtering those messages > >> into a > >> > > > separate folder easier ;P ) > >> > > > > >> > > > -Nick > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> On 5/28/13 10:25 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gred...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> Greg, do you think donations like these need to have a goal of > >> > being > >> > > >> >> integrated with Apache Flex or becoming its own project? > >> > Personally, > >> > > >> >>I'd > >> > > >> >> be ok with Apache Flex being a warehouse of all kinds of > >> > Flex-related > >> > > >> >>code > >> > > >> >> even if there is no active development for it. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >There's a couple of things to consider here: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >1) The board does not favor "umbrella" projects. Jakarta was an > >> > > umbrella > >> > > >> >project and it contained (at one time) Struts, Tomcat, Commons, > >> > JMeter, > >> > > >> >and > >> > > >> >a whole bunch of Java-related projects. It became clear that the > >> > > Jakarta > >> > > >> >community was too fragmented to get consensus so it spun off all > >> > those > >> > > >> >projects into TLPs. That could easily start to happen here. > >> > > >> That would make sense for Jakarta, especially if there was active > >> > > >> development on all of those pieces. I'm not sure that will be > the > >> > case > >> > > >> here. I think there's a good chance that these application > >> frameworks > >> > > may > >> > > >> not have much activity. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> For me, incubation was so much work that it seems easier to take > >> these > >> > > >> code donations and see if a community forms around it and then > spin > >> it > >> > > off > >> > > >> than going through the whole > >> > > >> proposal/initial-committers/mentors/infra-setup/graduation > process. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >2) This mailing list is already too high-traffic to follow. > >> > > Practically, > >> > > >> >we > >> > > >> >could probably already split up the Flex project into multiple > >> > > projects. > >> > > >> >It > >> > > >> >seems to me that folks are starting to gel around different > >> efforts, > >> > > like > >> > > >> >getting new releases of the SDK, vs. compilers, etc. It could be > >> that > >> > > we > >> > > >> >need to form new PMCs or it could be that we just need to enact > >> > > >> >sub-projects. But we have to be careful with sub-projects to > avoid > >> > > point 1 > >> > > >> >above. > >> > > >> What are your thoughts on just having more mailing lists? We > toyed > >> > with > >> > > >> the notion of having all JIRA activity on a different list. I > >> haven't > >> > > >> looked at the stats, but Erik and I haven't done much > >> > > >> Falcon/FalconJX/FlexJS work over the last two weeks and I'm not > sure > >> > > >> there's been less activity on the dev list. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> -Alex > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Ix Multimedia Software > >> > > > >> > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > >> > > 3521 VB Utrecht > >> > > > >> > > T. 06-51952295 > >> > > I. www.ixsoftware.nl > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > -- > Ix Multimedia Software > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > 3521 VB Utrecht > > T. 06-51952295 > I. www.ixsoftware.nl >
