Hi Carlos,

I agree with Piotr.  Retaining your ActionScript business logic instead of
the risk of porting it to a less structured language is one of the
original premises behind FlexJS.

I could be wrong, but I think all of the emails I've answered about FlexJS
in the past months are from people looking to migrate.  I don't recall
anyone saying they are creating a new app and choosing between FlexJS and
other JS frameworks.

IMO, renaming the code should be a day of work, but maybe I'm missing
something.  Let's fork the thread for that topic.

I'm not sure I've heard much support for any other name than Royale, so I
think we should start another yes/no vote thread for Royale.  I would like
to know from Justin Hill if (project=Royale,product=FlexJS) would
alleviate his concerns.

Also note, the further I dig into the new non-Adobe packaging, the more
different a package that can produce a SWF is from one that is truly
JS-only, so that is further making me think we can have two products with
different names.  We already have the one that produces SWFs that we
should continue to call FlexJS.  I should have the other one working soon.

My 2 cents,
-Alex


On 9/15/17, 7:46 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Carlos,
>
>Love your passion and share it fully. I cannot fully agree with you that
>having an old application in Flex people will need to rewrite completely.
>If they have separated enough good logic - they can put it without to much
>effort in our framework. - That is huge advantage in my opinion.
>
>Voting is going well on renaming. We have enough voices. Even if I change
>my vote it is still pass with renaming.
>
>The question is - what's with code rename? Can we stay as is? -
>
>I think someone should start vote with all name proposition. I don't have
>capacity within next 24 hours.
>
>Piotr
>
>On Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 16:21 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm with Om and others that one of the results we pursue with this
>>renaming
>> is to avoid the "Flex" name. We talked about the problems we have today
>> with clients when "Flex" is put in a discussion. You pay in terms of
>> credibility to your client.
>>
>> For migration : As a customer, I don't think migration is a real option.
>> FlexJS impose a very different code so almost all must be rewritten. You
>> only can think in maintain your languages (AS3/MXML) and environments
>>(FB,
>> IDEA,...), so for me there's no much room there to discuss. I must say
>>that
>> nowadays people like us considering to migrate would consider other
>>actual
>> techs like Angular or React since the cost is similar and they get the
>> popular framework in 2017.
>>
>> I see this renaming as a way to rebrand all our project and present it
>>to
>> the world with new visuals and marketing. And try to compete in the same
>> terms they do. Same kind of name, same kind of website, and so on...
>>
>> About Alex proposal to make different packages I think it could work,
>>but
>> for me that would be a plan after rename, rebranding and website
>>creation.
>> We can have it in mind for next steps after that. For me we need the
>>same
>> top name for product and project, and then we can release a package for
>> people wanting to migrate called "apache XXX FlexJS" or something. But
>> consider that to make that real we will need people interested in make
>>such
>> package and work for it. And consider how many people will be planing to
>> migrate from Flex and will find that FlexJS is completely different and
>> they can do it easily.
>>
>> @Piotr, my plans will be to work (if people wants me on that) on:
>>website,
>> logo design.... for me the motivation to work in that things is to get a
>> name that will make me think we can reach our goals, since if I don't
>> believe in a name will be complicated to give us a good work.
>> Far beyond that I always want to put work on the visuals of a component
>> design, I think we need that as we need the website and new name.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-09-15 13:17 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J
>><mark.kessler....@usmc.mil>:
>>
>> > I wanted to throw in a couple words / names to see if they "spark"
>> > anything.
>> >
>> >
>> > Arise
>> > Dawn
>> > Raise / Rise
>> >
>> > Dimension
>> > Facet
>> > Morph
>> > Poly
>> > Strand
>> >
>> > Derive
>> > Drive
>> > Quest
>> > Journey
>> >
>> > Fortune
>> > Prospect
>> > Trend
>> >
>> >
>> > -Mark K
>> >
>> >
>>
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