Understand. The vote should be open for the next 4 hours, but I will probably wait till tomorrow morning around 6-7 AM UTC with summary, so we can change our VOTES eventually.
With provided information my choose will be Arise - sounds nice same as Royale. 2017-09-19 21:12 GMT+02:00 Peter Ent <p...@adobe.com.invalid>: > I'm inclined to favor "Braid" over Limber (however you want to spell it) > because I can think of too many puns associated with Limber and the first > thing that comes to mind, for me, is cheese that smells. > > I don't remember how to pronounce "Borja" and while English always seems > to dominate, English-speaks will most likely pronounce it Boar-JA and a > few will go with Boar-YA or Boar-HA. So there will probably always be a > need for correction. > > While "Apache Royale" has a nice ring to it for me, I think "Braid" has > the right feel. You get things intertwined for a purpose, things in a > pattern, strands woven together, that sort of thing. > > "Braid" also brings to mind "Helix". I haven't looked to see if there are > any projects that use "Helix" which I'm sure there are. And if so, maybe > "Felix" to give a nod back to Flex along with the helix. > > —peter > > > > On 9/19/17, 2:59 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote: > > >I am not an expert, but AIUI, trademarks are intended to avoid confusion > >in a marketplace. There are lots of products named Flex, such as cars, > >diabetes testing kits, and more. There are even other software products > >called Flex and we need to consider whether it confuses potential > >customers about what Flex is being talked about. > > > >Mostly, we will use the term "Apache <ProjectName>" instead of just > ><ProjectName> when publishing things, but later in those documents we'll > >probably just refer to it as <ProjectName>. > > > >So, IMO, having other projects on GitHub called Braids isn't a deal killer > >and your link [1] probably won't cause confusion. I was more concerned > >about the Braids project related to Tensor-flow as Tensor-flow might > >become the new hot thing in software in general and if that Braids took > >off lots of mentions of Braids would be about that. There is also a > >Braids "static staging compiler" for TypeScript. > > > >That's why I'm concerned about Royale when there is a GitHub project > >called Royale that is a "A React-esque framework for Javascript". Think > >of it this way. If you did a search on GitHub for our project name and > >didn't realize we were associated with Apache, would you click on one of > >these other project instead, and how long would it take you to realize it > >wasn't the right one? If you go try to sell writing an app in Royale and > >a competitor has proposed writing it in React with the other GitHub > >Royale, will that be confusing to your client? > > > >I wrote to trademarks@ to see if they are similarly concerned. They > don't > >always respond right away. If they are not concerned, I will probably > >vote for Royale just so we have a name for tomorrow. > > > >HTH, > >-Alex > > > >On 9/19/17, 11:43 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can we > >>just > >>grab that name - I still do not understand fully those trademarks > >>implications. > >> > >>[1] > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c > >>o > >>m%2Fcristibalan%2Fbraid&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e > 4f1 > >>7 > >>%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > 7C636414434060882785&sdata=A6 > >>I > >>IL4SNYWP2XFTvOife92gA1t8Km4E%2Fr7QpvQ3B3mI%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >>2017-09-19 20:38 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J > >><mark.kessler....@usmc.mil>: > >> > >>> Apache Bob... > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM > >>> To: dev@flex.apache.org > >>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork > >>> > >>> Ick… > >>> > >>> Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) > >>> > >>> Harbs > >>> > >>> > On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > >>>wrote: > >>> > > >>> > There are any number of meanings for boja in many languages with and > >>> without diacritics. > >>> > > >>> > > >>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wi > >>>k > >>>tionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fboja&data=02%7C01%7C% > 7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e > >>>4 > >>>f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > 7C636414434060882785&sdat > >>>a > >>>=IObJoB2mvH3y8iHRBlUvDSDBXiTXitc2FPR1tPHKQ1o%3D&reserved=0 > >>> > > >>> > Sent from my iPhone > >>> > > >>> >> On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I can think of three ways* to pronounce "bo-ja" without even > >>>resorting > >>> to a > >>> >> South African "click" language. This makes it a challenge to refer > >>>to > >>> the > >>> >> product to anyone who does not already use it. > >>> >> > >>> >> *bodja, booya, boha. > >>> >> > >>> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < > >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>> Om, > >>> >>> > >>> >>> No offend :) That is why it is so hard to choose ;) I think "bo-ja" > >>>is > >>> the > >>> >>> closes to how I pronounce it. :) > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Piotr > >>> >>> > >>> >>> 2017-09-19 19:31 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala > >>><bigosma...@gmail.com>: > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> Boja is one name I really dislike. Sorry Piotr😕 > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Also I dont know how to pronounce it. Is it Bo-ha, or boo-ha or > >>>bo-ja, > >>> >>> etc? > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> On Sep 19, 2017 10:09 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" > >>><piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com > >>> > > >>> >>>> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>> Reading Alex in VOTE thread and how many times we are mentioning > >>>Boja > >>> >>> - I > >>> >>>>> will change my VOTE. Limbr is a bit dangerous having Dave's > >>>finding. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Piotr > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> 2017-09-19 18:41 GMT+02:00 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>: > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>>> FWIW, I think Limbr is another good spelling. > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Alex Harui > >>><aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > >>> >>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close > >>>down > >>> >>>> the > >>> >>>>>>> vote tonight or early tomorrow morning. So, if you are ok with > >>> >>>> Limber > >>> >>>>>>> (still not clear it will win, please state objections to using > >>> >>> Limbyr > >>> >>>>> as > >>> >>>>>>> the spelling. It is true a unique spelling stand out from > >>>search > >>> >>>>>> results, > >>> >>>>>>> but first, you have to remember how to spell it, and my spell > >>> >>> checker > >>> >>>>> is > >>> >>>>>>> constantly changing. > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> -Alex > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> On 9/19/17, 5:05 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" < > >>> >>> mark.kessler....@usmc.mil > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> wrote: > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve > >>>letter > >>> >>>>> changes > >>> >>>>>>>> to the name. > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> -Mark K > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>> >>>>>>>> From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] > >>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:52 AM > >>> >>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org > >>> >>>>>>>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS > >>>Fork > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> It has advantage of having the name which do not exist on > >>>github. > >>> >>>> Let > >>> >>>>>> say > >>> >>>>>>>> that Limber with win in the voting - We probably have to open > >>> >>>> another > >>> >>>>>> VOTE > >>> >>>>>>>> to have "Limbyr" - Which I like personally. > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Is it enough that PMCs agreed here with changing Limber to > >>>Limbyr > >>> >>>>> here ? > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr > >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> -- > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 <+48%20880%20859%20557> > >>> >>>>> skype: zarzycki10 > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> LinkedIn: > >>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > http%3A%2F%2Fwww.link > >>>e > >>>din.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e > 4f > >>>1 > >>>7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > 7C636414434060882785&sdata= > >>>X > >>>nzDov8knSVIq4xA3PwxgeWYX6V%2Bhu0unihcgNTwLA8%3D&reserved=0 > >>> >>>>> > >>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fpl.lin > >>>k > >>>edin.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02% > 7C01%7C%7C5ebf2328120043 > >>>5 > >>>2ad0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434 > >>>0 > >>>60882785&sdata=yFrI2bSLhV70ap8F70z%2BJ1Jr5WeG%2Bb0Wb9WPJi8JZuc% > 3D&reserv > >>>e > >>>d=0> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> -- > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Piotr Zarzycki > >>> >>> > >>> >>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 > >>> >>> skype: zarzycki10 > >>> >>> > >>> >>> LinkedIn: > >>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > http%3A%2F%2Fwww.link > >>>e > >>>din.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e > 4f > >>>1 > >>>7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > 7C636414434060882785&sdata= > >>>X > >>>nzDov8knSVIq4xA3PwxgeWYX6V%2Bhu0unihcgNTwLA8%3D&reserved=0 > >>> >>> > >>><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fpl.lin > >>>k > >>>edin.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02% > 7C01%7C%7C5ebf2328120043 > >>>5 > >>>2ad0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434 > >>>0 > >>>61039038&sdata=K4zUhZQ2OUR05E0tVkElvvyrq0rOn7 > LDP4djYkGzfDo%3D&reserved=0 > >>>> > >>> >>> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> Andrew Wetmore > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > http%3A%2F%2Fcottage1 > >>>4 > >>>.blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e > 4f17%7Cfa > >>>7 > >>>b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434061039038& > sdata=vLmMCIr > >>>N > >>>DxlysOX9wp0qMidTZ9UXR%2BrgNdG5cFMqa6g%3D&reserved=0 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >> > >>Piotr Zarzycki > >> > >>mobile: +48 880 859 557 > >>skype: zarzycki10 > >> > >>LinkedIn: > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linke > >>d > >>in.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e > 4f17 > >>% > >>7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% > 7C636414434061039038&sdata=9%2 > >>B > >>h1gjQgJF%2BlQpIWnPzWzsDGh%2F2AyxfmYIxGKrl9g9w%3D&reserved=0 > >><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fpl.link > >>e > >>din.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02% > 7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352 > >>a > >>d0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de > cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434061 > >>0 > >>39038&sdata=K4zUhZQ2OUR05E0tVkElvvyrq0rOn7LDP4djYkGzfDo%3D&reserved=0> > > > > -- Piotr Zarzycki mobile: +48 880 859 557 skype: zarzycki10 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/piotrzarzycki <https://pl.linkedin.com/in/piotr-zarzycki-92a53552>
