Apache Felix is an existing project. It is an OSGI container project.\ Regards, Dave
> On Sep 19, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Felix is the happiest name so far. > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Braid is fine with me too. >> >> If FlexJS doesn’t work, we can just play the game… B-) >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game) < >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game)> >> >> Harbs >> >>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:12 PM, Peter Ent <p...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote: >>> >>> I'm inclined to favor "Braid" over Limber (however you want to spell it) >>> because I can think of too many puns associated with Limber and the first >>> thing that comes to mind, for me, is cheese that smells. >>> >>> I don't remember how to pronounce "Borja" and while English always seems >>> to dominate, English-speaks will most likely pronounce it Boar-JA and a >>> few will go with Boar-YA or Boar-HA. So there will probably always be a >>> need for correction. >>> >>> While "Apache Royale" has a nice ring to it for me, I think "Braid" has >>> the right feel. You get things intertwined for a purpose, things in a >>> pattern, strands woven together, that sort of thing. >>> >>> "Braid" also brings to mind "Helix". I haven't looked to see if there are >>> any projects that use "Helix" which I'm sure there are. And if so, maybe >>> "Felix" to give a nod back to Flex along with the helix. >>> >>> —peter >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/19/17, 2:59 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote: >>> >>>> I am not an expert, but AIUI, trademarks are intended to avoid confusion >>>> in a marketplace. There are lots of products named Flex, such as cars, >>>> diabetes testing kits, and more. There are even other software products >>>> called Flex and we need to consider whether it confuses potential >>>> customers about what Flex is being talked about. >>>> >>>> Mostly, we will use the term "Apache <ProjectName>" instead of just >>>> <ProjectName> when publishing things, but later in those documents we'll >>>> probably just refer to it as <ProjectName>. >>>> >>>> So, IMO, having other projects on GitHub called Braids isn't a deal >> killer >>>> and your link [1] probably won't cause confusion. I was more concerned >>>> about the Braids project related to Tensor-flow as Tensor-flow might >>>> become the new hot thing in software in general and if that Braids took >>>> off lots of mentions of Braids would be about that. There is also a >>>> Braids "static staging compiler" for TypeScript. >>>> >>>> That's why I'm concerned about Royale when there is a GitHub project >>>> called Royale that is a "A React-esque framework for Javascript". Think >>>> of it this way. If you did a search on GitHub for our project name and >>>> didn't realize we were associated with Apache, would you click on one of >>>> these other project instead, and how long would it take you to realize >> it >>>> wasn't the right one? If you go try to sell writing an app in Royale >> and >>>> a competitor has proposed writing it in React with the other GitHub >>>> Royale, will that be confusing to your client? >>>> >>>> I wrote to trademarks@ to see if they are similarly concerned. They >> don't >>>> always respond right away. If they are not concerned, I will probably >>>> vote for Royale just so we have a name for tomorrow. >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> On 9/19/17, 11:43 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can we >>>>> just >>>>> grab that name - I still do not understand fully those trademarks >>>>> implications. >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>>>> o >>>>> m%2Fcristibalan%2Fbraid&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e >> 4f1 >>>>> 7 >>>>> %7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636414434060882785&sdata=A6 >>>>> I >>>>> IL4SNYWP2XFTvOife92gA1t8Km4E%2Fr7QpvQ3B3mI%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>>> 2017-09-19 20:38 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J >>>>> <mark.kessler....@usmc.mil>: >>>>> >>>>>> Apache Bob... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM >>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org >>>>>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork >>>>>> >>>>>> Ick… >>>>>> >>>>>> Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Harbs >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are any number of meanings for boja in many languages with and >>>>>> without diacritics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wi >>>>>> k >>>>>> tionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fboja&data=02%7C01%7C% >> 7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e >>>>>> 4 >>>>>> f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636414434060882785&sdat >>>>>> a >>>>>> =IObJoB2mvH3y8iHRBlUvDSDBXiTXitc2FPR1tPHKQ1o%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can think of three ways* to pronounce "bo-ja" without even >>>>>> resorting >>>>>> to a >>>>>>>> South African "click" language. This makes it a challenge to refer >>>>>> to >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> product to anyone who does not already use it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *bodja, booya, boha. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >>>>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Om, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No offend :) That is why it is so hard to choose ;) I think "bo-ja" >>>>>> is >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> closes to how I pronounce it. :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Piotr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-09-19 19:31 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala >>>>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Boja is one name I really dislike. Sorry Piotr😕 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also I dont know how to pronounce it. Is it Bo-ha, or boo-ha or >>>>>> bo-ja, >>>>>>>>> etc? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017 10:09 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" >>>>>> <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Reading Alex in VOTE thread and how many times we are mentioning >>>>>> Boja >>>>>>>>> - I >>>>>>>>>>> will change my VOTE. Limbr is a bit dangerous having Dave's >>>>>> finding. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-09-19 18:41 GMT+02:00 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I think Limbr is another good spelling. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Alex Harui >>>>>> <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close >>>>>> down >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> vote tonight or early tomorrow morning. So, if you are ok with >>>>>>>>>> Limber >>>>>>>>>>>>> (still not clear it will win, please state objections to using >>>>>>>>> Limbyr >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>> the spelling. It is true a unique spelling stand out from >>>>>> search >>>>>>>>>>>> results, >>>>>>>>>>>>> but first, you have to remember how to spell it, and my spell >>>>>>>>> checker >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> constantly changing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Alex >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/17, 5:05 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" < >>>>>>>>> mark.kessler....@usmc.mil >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve >>>>>> letter >>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Mark K >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:52 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS >>>>>> Fork >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has advantage of having the name which do not exist on >>>>>> github. >>>>>>>>>> Let >>>>>>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Limber with win in the voting - We probably have to open >>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>>> VOTE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have "Limbyr" - Which I like personally. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it enough that PMCs agreed here with changing Limber to >>>>>> Limbyr >>>>>>>>>>> here ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 <+48%20880%20859%20557> >>>>>>>>>>> skype: zarzycki10 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.link >>>>>> e >>>>>> din.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C% >> 7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e4f >>>>>> 1 >>>>>> 7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636414434060882785&sdata= >>>>>> X >>>>>> nzDov8knSVIq4xA3PwxgeWYX6V%2Bhu0unihcgNTwLA8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fpl.lin >>>>>> k >>>>>> edin.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02% >> 7C01%7C%7C5ebf2328120043 >>>>>> 5 >>>>>> 2ad0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434 >>>>>> 0 >>>>>> 60882785&sdata=yFrI2bSLhV70ap8F70z%2BJ1Jr5WeG%2Bb0Wb9WPJi8JZuc% >> 3D&reserv >>>>>> e >>>>>> d=0> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 >>>>>>>>> skype: zarzycki10 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.link >>>>>> e >>>>>> din.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C% >> 7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e4f >>>>>> 1 >>>>>> 7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636414434060882785&sdata= >>>>>> X >>>>>> nzDov8knSVIq4xA3PwxgeWYX6V%2Bhu0unihcgNTwLA8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fpl.lin >>>>>> k >>>>>> edin.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02% >> 7C01%7C%7C5ebf2328120043 >>>>>> 5 >>>>>> 2ad0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434 >>>>>> 0 >>>>>> 61039038&sdata=K4zUhZQ2OUR05E0tVkElvvyrq0rOn7 >> LDP4djYkGzfDo%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fcottage1 >>>>>> 4 >>>>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e >> 4f17%7Cfa >>>>>> 7 >>>>>> b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434061039038& >> sdata=vLmMCIr >>>>>> N >>>>>> DxlysOX9wp0qMidTZ9UXR%2BrgNdG5cFMqa6g%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki >>>>> >>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 >>>>> skype: zarzycki10 >>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn: >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linke >>>>> d >>>>> in.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e >> 4f17 >>>>> % >>>>> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636414434061039038&sdata=9%2 >>>>> B >>>>> h1gjQgJF%2BlQpIWnPzWzsDGh%2F2AyxfmYIxGKrl9g9w%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fpl.link >>>>> e >>>>> din.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02%7C01%7C% >> 7C5ebf232812004352 >>>>> a >>>>> d0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434061 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 39038&sdata=K4zUhZQ2OUR05E0tVkElvvyrq0rOn7LDP4djYkGzfDo%3D&reserved=0> >>>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Andrew Wetmore > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
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