Braid is fine with me too. If FlexJS doesn’t work, we can just play the game… B-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game)> Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:12 PM, Peter Ent <p...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote: > > I'm inclined to favor "Braid" over Limber (however you want to spell it) > because I can think of too many puns associated with Limber and the first > thing that comes to mind, for me, is cheese that smells. > > I don't remember how to pronounce "Borja" and while English always seems > to dominate, English-speaks will most likely pronounce it Boar-JA and a > few will go with Boar-YA or Boar-HA. So there will probably always be a > need for correction. > > While "Apache Royale" has a nice ring to it for me, I think "Braid" has > the right feel. You get things intertwined for a purpose, things in a > pattern, strands woven together, that sort of thing. > > "Braid" also brings to mind "Helix". I haven't looked to see if there are > any projects that use "Helix" which I'm sure there are. And if so, maybe > "Felix" to give a nod back to Flex along with the helix. > > —peter > > > > On 9/19/17, 2:59 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote: > >> I am not an expert, but AIUI, trademarks are intended to avoid confusion >> in a marketplace. There are lots of products named Flex, such as cars, >> diabetes testing kits, and more. There are even other software products >> called Flex and we need to consider whether it confuses potential >> customers about what Flex is being talked about. >> >> Mostly, we will use the term "Apache <ProjectName>" instead of just >> <ProjectName> when publishing things, but later in those documents we'll >> probably just refer to it as <ProjectName>. >> >> So, IMO, having other projects on GitHub called Braids isn't a deal killer >> and your link [1] probably won't cause confusion. I was more concerned >> about the Braids project related to Tensor-flow as Tensor-flow might >> become the new hot thing in software in general and if that Braids took >> off lots of mentions of Braids would be about that. There is also a >> Braids "static staging compiler" for TypeScript. >> >> That's why I'm concerned about Royale when there is a GitHub project >> called Royale that is a "A React-esque framework for Javascript". Think >> of it this way. If you did a search on GitHub for our project name and >> didn't realize we were associated with Apache, would you click on one of >> these other project instead, and how long would it take you to realize it >> wasn't the right one? If you go try to sell writing an app in Royale and >> a competitor has proposed writing it in React with the other GitHub >> Royale, will that be confusing to your client? >> >> I wrote to trademarks@ to see if they are similarly concerned. They don't >> always respond right away. If they are not concerned, I will probably >> vote for Royale just so we have a name for tomorrow. >> >> HTH, >> -Alex >> >> On 9/19/17, 11:43 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can we >>> just >>> grab that name - I still do not understand fully those trademarks >>> implications. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>> o >>> m%2Fcristibalan%2Fbraid&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e4f1 >>> 7 >>> %7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434060882785&sdata=A6 >>> I >>> IL4SNYWP2XFTvOife92gA1t8Km4E%2Fr7QpvQ3B3mI%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> 2017-09-19 20:38 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J >>> <mark.kessler....@usmc.mil>: >>> >>>> Apache Bob... >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM >>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org >>>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork >>>> >>>> Ick… >>>> >>>> Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) >>>> >>>> Harbs >>>> >>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There are any number of meanings for boja in many languages with and >>>> without diacritics. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.m.wi >>>> k >>>> tionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fboja&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e >>>> 4 >>>> f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434060882785&sdat >>>> a >>>> =IObJoB2mvH3y8iHRBlUvDSDBXiTXitc2FPR1tPHKQ1o%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I can think of three ways* to pronounce "bo-ja" without even >>>> resorting >>>> to a >>>>>> South African "click" language. This makes it a challenge to refer >>>> to >>>> the >>>>>> product to anyone who does not already use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> *bodja, booya, boha. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >>>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Om, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No offend :) That is why it is so hard to choose ;) I think "bo-ja" >>>> is >>>> the >>>>>>> closes to how I pronounce it. :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Piotr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-09-19 19:31 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala >>>> <bigosma...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Boja is one name I really dislike. Sorry Piotr😕 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also I dont know how to pronounce it. Is it Bo-ha, or boo-ha or >>>> bo-ja, >>>>>>> etc? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017 10:09 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" >>>> <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Reading Alex in VOTE thread and how many times we are mentioning >>>> Boja >>>>>>> - I >>>>>>>>> will change my VOTE. Limbr is a bit dangerous having Dave's >>>> finding. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Piotr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-09-19 18:41 GMT+02:00 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I think Limbr is another good spelling. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Alex Harui >>>> <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close >>>> down >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> vote tonight or early tomorrow morning. So, if you are ok with >>>>>>>> Limber >>>>>>>>>>> (still not clear it will win, please state objections to using >>>>>>> Limbyr >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> the spelling. It is true a unique spelling stand out from >>>> search >>>>>>>>>> results, >>>>>>>>>>> but first, you have to remember how to spell it, and my spell >>>>>>> checker >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> constantly changing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -Alex >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/17, 5:05 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" < >>>>>>> mark.kessler....@usmc.mil >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve >>>> letter >>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>>> to the name. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Mark K >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:52 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS >>>> Fork >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It has advantage of having the name which do not exist on >>>> github. >>>>>>>> Let >>>>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>>>>>> that Limber with win in the voting - We probably have to open >>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>> VOTE >>>>>>>>>>>> to have "Limbyr" - Which I like personally. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it enough that PMCs agreed here with changing Limber to >>>> Limbyr >>>>>>>>> here ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 <+48%20880%20859%20557> >>>>>>>>> skype: zarzycki10 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.link >>>> e >>>> din.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e4f >>>> 1 >>>> 7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434060882785&sdata= >>>> X >>>> nzDov8knSVIq4xA3PwxgeWYX6V%2Bhu0unihcgNTwLA8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpl.lin >>>> k >>>> edin.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf2328120043 >>>> 5 >>>> 2ad0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434 >>>> 0 >>>> 60882785&sdata=yFrI2bSLhV70ap8F70z%2BJ1Jr5WeG%2Bb0Wb9WPJi8JZuc%3D&reserv >>>> e >>>> d=0> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 >>>>>>> skype: zarzycki10 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LinkedIn: >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.link >>>> e >>>> din.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e4f >>>> 1 >>>> 7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434060882785&sdata= >>>> X >>>> nzDov8knSVIq4xA3PwxgeWYX6V%2Bhu0unihcgNTwLA8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpl.lin >>>> k >>>> edin.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf2328120043 >>>> 5 >>>> 2ad0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434 >>>> 0 >>>> 61039038&sdata=K4zUhZQ2OUR05E0tVkElvvyrq0rOn7LDP4djYkGzfDo%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcottage1 >>>> 4 >>>> .blogspot.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa >>>> 7 >>>> b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434061039038&sdata=vLmMCIr >>>> N >>>> DxlysOX9wp0qMidTZ9UXR%2BrgNdG5cFMqa6g%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Piotr Zarzycki >>> >>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 >>> skype: zarzycki10 >>> >>> LinkedIn: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linke >>> d >>> in.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352ad0108d4ff8e4f17 >>> % >>> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434061039038&sdata=9%2 >>> B >>> h1gjQgJF%2BlQpIWnPzWzsDGh%2F2AyxfmYIxGKrl9g9w%3D&reserved=0 >>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpl.link >>> e >>> din.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf232812004352 >>> a >>> d0108d4ff8e4f17%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636414434061 >>> 0 >>> 39038&sdata=K4zUhZQ2OUR05E0tVkElvvyrq0rOn7LDP4djYkGzfDo%3D&reserved=0> >> >