Hi Robert, Thanks a lot for starting this discussion!
+1 to a user-zh@flink.a.o mailing list (you mentioned -zh in the title, but -cn in the opening email content. I think -zh would be better as we are establishing the tool for general Chinese-speaking users). All dev@ discussions / JIRAs should still be in a single English mailing list. >From what I've seen in the DingTalk Flink user group, there's quite a bit of activity in forms of user questions and replies. It would really be great if the Chinese-speaking user community can actually have these discussions happen in the Apache mailing lists, so that questions / discussions / replies from developers can be indexed and searchable. Moreover, it'll give the community more insight in how active a Chinese-speaking contributor is helping with user requests, which in general is a form of contribution that the community always merits a lot. Cheers, Gordon On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote: > Hey all, > > I would like to create a new user support mailing list called " > user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink community. > > Why? > In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came from the US, > 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the US at 20%. > An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group with more > than 5000 members, asking Flink questions. > I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in public forums > (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a huge demand > in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide these users > the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to follow the > Apache way. > > Is it possible? > I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are running > non-English user@ mailing lists. > Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have non-English > lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ > One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that all project > decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to happen in > English, as this is the primary language of the Apache Foundation and our > community. > We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing lists. > > How? > If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request the new > mailing list next Monday. > In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when the > discussions have stopped. > Then, we should put the new list on our website and start promoting it (in > said DingTalk group and on social media). > > Let me know what you think about this idea :) > > Best, > Robert > > > PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for: > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH >
