+1 Piotr Nowojski <pi...@da-platform.com> 于2019年1月24日周四 下午8:38写道：
> +1, good idea, especially with that many Chinese speaking contributors, > committers & users :) > > Piotrek > > > On 24 Jan 2019, at 13:20, Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Big +1 on this, it will indeed help Chinese speaking users a lot. > > > > fudian.fd <fudian...@alibaba-inc.com>于2019年1月24日 周四20:18写道： > > > >> +1. I noticed that many folks from China are requesting the JIRA > >> permission in the past year. It reflects that more and more developers > from > >> China are using Flink. A Chinese oriented mailing list will definitely > be > >> helpful for the growth of Flink in China. > >> > >> > >>> 在 2019年1月24日，下午7:42，Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> 写道： > >>> > >>> +1, a very nice idea > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks for your response. > >>>> > >>>> You are right, I'm proposing "user...@flink.apache.org" as the > mailing > >>>> list's name! > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:37 PM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai < > >> tzuli...@apache.org> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Robert, > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks a lot for starting this discussion! > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 to a user-zh@flink.a.o mailing list (you mentioned -zh in the > >> title, > >>>>> but > >>>>> -cn in the opening email content. > >>>>> I think -zh would be better as we are establishing the tool for > general > >>>>> Chinese-speaking users). > >>>>> All dev@ discussions / JIRAs should still be in a single English > >> mailing > >>>>> list. > >>>>> > >>>>> From what I've seen in the DingTalk Flink user group, there's quite a > >> bit > >>>>> of activity in forms of user questions and replies. > >>>>> It would really be great if the Chinese-speaking user community can > >>>>> actually have these discussions happen in the Apache mailing lists, > >>>>> so that questions / discussions / replies from developers can be > >> indexed > >>>>> and searchable. > >>>>> Moreover, it'll give the community more insight in how active a > >>>>> Chinese-speaking contributor is helping with user requests, > >>>>> which in general is a form of contribution that the community always > >>>> merits > >>>>> a lot. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Gordon > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hey all, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would like to create a new user support mailing list called " > >>>>>> user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink > >>>> community. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why? > >>>>>> In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came from > the > >>>>> US, > >>>>>> 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the US at > >>>> 20%. > >>>>>> An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group with > >>>> more > >>>>>> than 5000 members, asking Flink questions. > >>>>>> I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in public > >>>> forums > >>>>>> (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a huge > >>>> demand > >>>>>> in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide > these > >>>>> users > >>>>>> the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to > follow > >>>>> the > >>>>>> Apache way. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is it possible? > >>>>>> I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are > running > >>>>>> non-English user@ mailing lists. > >>>>>> Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have > >>>> non-English > >>>>>> lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ > >>>>>> One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that all > >>>>> project > >>>>>> decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to happen > in > >>>>>> English, as this is the primary language of the Apache Foundation > and > >>>> our > >>>>>> community. > >>>>>> We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing lists. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How? > >>>>>> If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request the > >>>> new > >>>>>> mailing list next Monday. > >>>>>> In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when the > >>>>>> discussions have stopped. > >>>>>> Then, we should put the new list on our website and start promoting > it > >>>>> (in > >>>>>> said DingTalk group and on social media). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Let me know what you think about this idea :) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best, > >>>>>> Robert > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for: > >>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > >> -- > > Best, > > Kurt > > -- Best Regards Jeff Zhang
