+1, good idea, especially with that many Chinese speaking contributors, committers & users :)
Piotrek > On 24 Jan 2019, at 13:20, Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Big +1 on this, it will indeed help Chinese speaking users a lot. > > fudian.fd <fudian...@alibaba-inc.com>于2019年1月24日 周四20:18写道： > >> +1. I noticed that many folks from China are requesting the JIRA >> permission in the past year. It reflects that more and more developers from >> China are using Flink. A Chinese oriented mailing list will definitely be >> helpful for the growth of Flink in China. >> >> >>> 在 2019年1月24日，下午7:42，Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> 写道： >>> >>> +1, a very nice idea >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for your response. >>>> >>>> You are right, I'm proposing "user...@flink.apache.org" as the mailing >>>> list's name! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:37 PM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai < >> tzuli...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Robert, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot for starting this discussion! >>>>> >>>>> +1 to a user-zh@flink.a.o mailing list (you mentioned -zh in the >> title, >>>>> but >>>>> -cn in the opening email content. >>>>> I think -zh would be better as we are establishing the tool for general >>>>> Chinese-speaking users). >>>>> All dev@ discussions / JIRAs should still be in a single English >> mailing >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> From what I've seen in the DingTalk Flink user group, there's quite a >> bit >>>>> of activity in forms of user questions and replies. >>>>> It would really be great if the Chinese-speaking user community can >>>>> actually have these discussions happen in the Apache mailing lists, >>>>> so that questions / discussions / replies from developers can be >> indexed >>>>> and searchable. >>>>> Moreover, it'll give the community more insight in how active a >>>>> Chinese-speaking contributor is helping with user requests, >>>>> which in general is a form of contribution that the community always >>>> merits >>>>> a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Gordon >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to create a new user support mailing list called " >>>>>> user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink >>>> community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why? >>>>>> In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came from the >>>>> US, >>>>>> 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the US at >>>> 20%. >>>>>> An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group with >>>> more >>>>>> than 5000 members, asking Flink questions. >>>>>> I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in public >>>> forums >>>>>> (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a huge >>>> demand >>>>>> in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide these >>>>> users >>>>>> the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to follow >>>>> the >>>>>> Apache way. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it possible? >>>>>> I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are running >>>>>> non-English user@ mailing lists. >>>>>> Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have >>>> non-English >>>>>> lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ >>>>>> One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that all >>>>> project >>>>>> decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to happen in >>>>>> English, as this is the primary language of the Apache Foundation and >>>> our >>>>>> community. >>>>>> We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing lists. >>>>>> >>>>>> How? >>>>>> If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request the >>>> new >>>>>> mailing list next Monday. >>>>>> In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when the >>>>>> discussions have stopped. >>>>>> Then, we should put the new list on our website and start promoting it >>>>> (in >>>>>> said DingTalk group and on social media). >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know what you think about this idea :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Robert >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for: >>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> -- > Best, > Kurt
