Thanks Konstantin!

I registered as an alternative administrator,  and have had left few
comments at the blog post.

Best,
Jincheng

Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月18日周四 上午12:36写道:

> Thanks Konstantin!
>
> I registered as a mentor and will have a look at the blog post.
>
> Best, Fabian
>
> Am Mi., 17. Apr. 2019 um 18:14 Uhr schrieb Konstantin Knauf <
> konstan...@ververica.com>:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > a few updates on our application:
> >
> > 1. As Aizhamal (Thanks!) has suggested I also added the information to
> > submit during our application to the Google doc [1] and Fabian added a
> > description for the SQL project idea (Thanks!).
> >
> > 2. I had a quick chat with Fabian offline and we concluded, that the
> "Flink
> > Internals" project might not be good fit for Season of Docs after all,
> > because, we think, the amount of mentoring by core developers that would
> be
> > necessary to produce such a documentation could not be guaranteed. Any
> > opinions?
> >
> > 3. To submit our application, we need to publish our project ideas list.
> > For this I have just opened a PR to add a small blog post about Season of
> > Docs [2]. Please have a look and provide feedback.
> >
> > 4. For mentors (Stephan, Fabian, Jark, David) please complete the mentor
> > registration [3] by next Tuesday (*Application Deadline*)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Konstantin
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Up53jNsLztApn-mP76AB6xWUVGt3nwS9p6xQTiceKXo/edit?usp=sharing
> > [2] https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/202
> > [3]
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-JjGvaKKGWZOXxrorONhB8qN3mjPrB9ZVkcsntR73Cv_K7g/viewform
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:12 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
> > aizha...@google.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +Konstantin Knauf <konstan...@ververica.com> this is looking good,
> > thanks
> > > for sharing!
> > >
> > > I also created a similar doc for Apache Airflow [1]. It is a bit messy,
> > > but it has questions from the application form that you can work with.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Aizhamal
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HoL_yjNYiTAP9IxSlhx3EUnPFU4l9WOT9EnwBZjCZo0/edit#
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:24 AM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >> I'm very happy to see this project happening!
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for the proposal Konstantin! One idea for the "related
> > >> material": we could also link to talks or blog posts about concepts /
> > >> monitoring / operations. Potential writers could feel overwhelmed by
> our
> > >> demand for improvements, without any additional material.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Konstantin Knauf <
> > >> konstan...@ververica.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks @Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizha...@google.com>. As we only
> have
> > >>> one
> > >>> week left until the application deadline, I went ahead and created a
> > >>> document for the project ideas [1]. I have added the description for
> > the
> > >>> "stream processing concepts" as well as the "deployment & operations
> > >>> documentation" project idea. Please let me know what you think, edit
> &
> > >>> comment. We also need descriptions for the other two projects (Table
> > >>> API/SQL & Flink Internals). @Fabian/@Jark/@Stephan can you chime in?
> > >>>
> > >>> Any more project ideas?
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>>
> > >>> Konstantin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Up53jNsLztApn-mP76AB6xWUVGt3nwS9p6xQTiceKXo/edit?usp=sharing
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 6:50 PM Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <
> > >>> aizha...@google.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Hello everyone,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > @Konstantin Knauf <konstan...@ververica.com> - yes, you are
> correct.
> > >>> > Between steps 1 and 2 though, the open source organization, in this
> > >>> case
> > >>> > Flink, has to be selected by SoD as one of the participating orgs
> > >>> *fingers
> > >>> > crossed*.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > One tip about organizing ideas is that you want to communicate
> > >>> potential
> > >>> > projects to the tech writers that are applying. Just make sure the
> > >>> scope of
> > >>> > the project is clear to them. The SoD wants to set up the tech
> > writers
> > >>> for
> > >>> > success by making sure the work can be done in the allotted time.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hope it helps.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Aizhamal
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 7:37 AM Konstantin Knauf <
> > >>> konstan...@ververica.com>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> Hi all,
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> I read through the SoD documentation again, and now I think, it
> > would
> > >>> >> actually make sense to split (1) up into multiple project ideas.
> Let
> > >>> me
> > >>> >> summarize the overall process:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> 1. We create & publish a list of project ideas, e.g. in a blog
> post.
> > >>> >> (This can be any number of ideas.)
> > >>> >> 2. Potential technical writers look at our list of ideas and sent
> a
> > >>> >> proposal for a particular project to Google. During that time they
> > can
> > >>> >> reach out to us for clarification.
> > >>> >> 3. Google forwards all proposals for our project ideas to us and
> we
> > >>> sent
> > >>> >> back a prioritized list of proposals, which we would like to
> accept.
> > >>> >> 4. Of all these proposals, Google accepts 50 proposals for SoD
> 2019.
> > >>> Per
> > >>> >> organization Google will only accept a maximum of two proposals.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> @Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <aizha...@google.com> Please correct me!
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> For me this means we should splits this up in a way, that each
> > >>> project is
> > >>> >> a) still relevant in September b) makes sense as a 3 month
> project.
> > >>> Based
> > >>> >> on the ideas we have right now these could for example be:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> (I) Rework/Extract/Improve the documentation of stream processing
> > >>> concepts
> > >>> >> (II) Improve & extend Apache Flink's documentation for deployment,
> > >>> >> operations (incl. configuration)
> > >>> >> (III) Add documentation for Flink internals
> > >>> >> (IV) Rework Table API / SQL documentation
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> We would then get proposals potentially for all of these topics
> and
> > >>> could
> > >>> >> decide which of these proposals, we would sent back to Google. My
> > >>> feeling
> > >>> >> is that a technical writer could easily spent three months on any
> of
> > >>> these
> > >>> >> projects. What do others think? Any other project ideas?
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Cheers,
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Konstantin
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:47 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>> Hi all,
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> I'm fine with only preparing the first proposal. I think it's
> > >>> reasonable
> > >>> >>> because the first proposal is more attractive
> > >>> >>> and maybe there is not enough Chinese writer. We can focus on one
> > >>> project
> > >>> >>> to come up with a concrete and
> > >>> >>> attractive project plan.
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> One possible subproject could be rework Table SQL docs.
> > >>> >>> (1). Improve concepts in Table SQL.
> > >>> >>> (2). A more detailed introduction of built-in functions,
> currently
> > we
> > >>> >>> only
> > >>> >>> have a simple explanation for each function.
> > >>> >>>       We should add more descriptions, especially more concrete
> > >>> examples,
> > >>> >>> and maybe some notes. We can take
> > >>> >>>       MySQL doc [1] as a reference.
> > >>> >>> (3). As Flink SQL is evolving rapidly and features from Blink is
> > >>> being
> > >>> >>> merged,  for example, SQL DDL, Hive integration,
> > >>> >>>       Python Table API, Interactive Programing, SQL optimization
> > and
> > >>> >>> tuning, etc... We can redesign the doc structure of
> > >>> >>>       Table SQL in a higher vision.
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> Cheers,
> > >>> >>> Jark
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> [1]:
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>>
> > >>>
> >
> https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/string-functions.html#function_bin
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 18:19, jincheng sun <
> > sunjincheng...@gmail.com
> > >>> >
> > >>> >>> wrote:
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> > I am honored to have the opportunity to do a second
> organization
> > >>> >>> > administrator‘s works!
> > >>> >>> >
> > >>> >>> > It seems that one project and multiple projects have their own
> > >>> >>> advantages.
> > >>> >>> >
> > >>> >>> > My understanding is that even if we only have one project, we
> > also
> > >>> can
> > >>> >>> have
> > >>> >>> > multiple mentors and recruit enough writers.
> > >>> >>> >
> > >>> >>> > Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月12日周五 下午5:57写道:
> > >>> >>> >
> > >>> >>> > > Yes, I think we would get at most one project accepted.
> > >>> >>> > > Having all options in a rather generic proposal gives us the
> > most
> > >>> >>> > > flexibility to decide what to work on once the proposal is
> > >>> accepted.
> > >>> >>> > > On the other hand, a more concrete proposal might look more
> > >>> >>> attractive
> > >>> >>> > for
> > >>> >>> > > candidates.
> > >>> >>> > > I'm fine either way, but my gut feeling is that a well scoped
> > >>> >>> proposal
> > >>> >>> > > gives better changes of finding a writer (which might be the
> > >>> biggest
> > >>> >>> > > challenge).
> > >>> >>> > >
> > >>> >>> > > Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 11:39 Uhr schrieb Stephan Ewen <
> > >>> >>> > se...@apache.org
> > >>> >>> > > >:
> > >>> >>> > >
> > >>> >>> > > > I would suggest to make one proposal and have the
> subsections
> > >>> only
> > >>> >>> in
> > >>> >>> > the
> > >>> >>> > > > project plan.
> > >>> >>> > > > My understanding is that we need to indicate priorities
> > between
> > >>> >>> > proposals
> > >>> >>> > > > and might get only one, so it would be good to not
> subdivide.
> > >>> >>> > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Fabian Hueske <
> > >>> fhue...@gmail.com>
> > >>> >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >>> > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > I think we can split the first project that Stephan
> > proposed
> > >>> into
> > >>> >>> > > smaller
> > >>> >>> > > > > ones:
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > (1) Create or rework setup / tutorials / concepts docs
> > >>> >>> > > > > > (2) Complete (or advance) the Chinese translation
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > 1.1 Improving (extracting) the documentation of stream
> > >>> processing
> > >>> >>> > > > concepts:
> > >>> >>> > > > > Event-time, Timers, State, State Backends, Checkpointing,
> > >>> >>> Savepoints
> > >>> >>> > > > > Right now, the relevant information is scattered across
> > >>> several
> > >>> >>> pages
> > >>> >>> > > and
> > >>> >>> > > > > mixed with the implementation / APIs / configuration
> > options.
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > 1.2 Improving & extending the documentation of
> deployments
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > 1.3 Adding documentation in the internals: Distributed
> > >>> >>> architecture,
> > >>> >>> > > > > recovery, operators, job translation, execution, etc.
> > >>> >>> > > > > This documentation would be targeted to Flink developers.
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > I thought again about the idea of improving the
> tutorials,
> > >>> and
> > >>> >>> I'm no
> > >>> >>> > > > > longer sure if this would fit SoD well.
> > >>> >>> > > > > The reason is that creating good tutorials requires a
> good
> > >>> >>> portion of
> > >>> >>> > > > > coding / configuration (creating Docker images, example
> > >>> programs,
> > >>> >>> > > etc.).
> > >>> >>> > > > > Also I'd like to start improving the situation of
> tutorials
> > >>> >>> earlier
> > >>> >>> > > than
> > >>> >>> > > > > September.
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > What do others think?
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > Cheers, Fabian
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 04:29 Uhr schrieb Jark Wu <
> > >>> >>> imj...@gmail.com
> > >>> >>> > >:
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > Hi Konstantin, Ken,
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > I agree that Chinese documentation is mainly a
> > translation.
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >  Does anyone from the Blink team have input on
> whether
> > >>> there
> > >>> >>> is
> > >>> >>> > > > > existing,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > original Chinese documentation which should be
> translated
> > >>> to
> > >>> >>> > English?
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > There is a public Blink documentation [1] which is
> > English.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > We have a Blink Chinese documentation in internal, but
> I
> > >>> think
> > >>> >>> we
> > >>> >>> > > need
> > >>> >>> > > > to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > rewrite it in English and restructure it when
> > contributing
> > >>> >>> Blink to
> > >>> >>> > > > > Flink.
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > Regarding the Chinese translation project, I agree with
> > >>> Ken's
> > >>> >>> > > opinion.
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > From the point of my translation experience,
> translation
> > >>> is a
> > >>> >>> work
> > >>> >>> > > that
> > >>> >>> > > > > > need to understand the original English sentence
> > correctly
> > >>> and
> > >>> >>> then
> > >>> >>> > > > > express
> > >>> >>> > > > > > it in Chinese in an easily understandable way. This is
> > not
> > >>> a
> > >>> >>> simple
> > >>> >>> > > > work
> > >>> >>> > > > > > that translate word by word. The one we need is not a
> > >>> >>> "professional
> > >>> >>> > > > > > translator",
> > >>> >>> > > > > > but a "technical writer who are familiar with both
> > >>> >>> languages".  I
> > >>> >>> > > also
> > >>> >>> > > > > > agree that the writer who write the initial
> documentation
> > >>> has
> > >>> >>> the
> > >>> >>> > > > better
> > >>> >>> > > > > > ability than
> > >>> >>> > > > > > translator to distill complex technical concepts.
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > [1]: https://flink-china.org/doc/blink
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 02:40, Ken Krugler <
> > >>> >>> > > kkrugler_li...@transpac.com
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > Hi Konstantin,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > Comments inline below…
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > — Ken
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > On Apr 11, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Konstantin Knauf <
> > >>> >>> > > > > > konstan...@ververica.com>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > I will start going through the registration process
> > >>> >>> tomorrow
> > >>> >>> > > (CET).
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > Jincheng (cc) reached out to me directly and
> offered
> > >>> to be
> > >>> >>> the
> > >>> >>> > > > second
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > organization administrator. So, we are all set in
> > that
> > >>> >>> regard.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > In terms of mentors, we now have
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > * myself
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > * Fabian
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > * David
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > * Stephan
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > * Jark (Chinese Translation)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > Regarding the Chinese translation project, it is
> > >>> probably a
> > >>> >>> > > > question
> > >>> >>> > > > > of
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > how
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > independent the Chinese version is supposed to be.
> If
> > >>> the
> > >>> >>> > English
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > documentation is the ground-truth and the Chinese
> > >>> >>> documentation
> > >>> >>> > > is
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > (mainly)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > a translation, I agree with Stefan. If the Chinese
> > >>> >>> > documentation
> > >>> >>> > > is
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > supposed to become an independent secondary
> > >>> documentation,
> > >>> >>> it
> > >>> >>> > > could
> > >>> >>> > > > > be
> > >>> >>> > > > > > a
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > project for a technical writer as well. Has this
> > >>> questions
> > >>> >>> > > already
> > >>> >>> > > > > been
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > discussed in the community?
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > My understanding is that the Chinese documentation is
> > >>> going
> > >>> >>> to
> > >>> >>> > > mostly
> > >>> >>> > > > > be
> > >>> >>> > > > > > a
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > translation of the English versions.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > Though perhaps, with all of the Blink integration
> going
> > >>> on,
> > >>> >>> the
> > >>> >>> > > > inverse
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > could also be true.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > Does anyone from the Blink team have input on whether
> > >>> there
> > >>> >>> is
> > >>> >>> > > > > existing,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > original Chinese documentation which should be
> > >>> translated to
> > >>> >>> > > English?
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:34 AM Stephan Ewen <
> > >>> >>> > se...@apache.org>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> So we have two ideas for docs projects now:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> (1) Create or rework setup / tutorials / concepts
> > docs
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> (2) Complete (or advance) the Chinese translation
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Should we apply for both (and let the SoD
> committee
> > >>> select
> > >>> >>> > > > whichever
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > they
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> want to sponsor) or select one of them?
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> For project (2), this sounds to me more like a
> > project
> > >>> >>> for a
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > "translator",
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> not a "technical writer". As far as I understand
> it,
> > >>> the
> > >>> >>> big
> > >>> >>> > > > benefit
> > >>> >>> > > > > > of
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> having a technical writer is to have someone who
> can
> > >>> >>> describe
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > complicated
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> technical concepts (that engineers describe in
> > >>> complicated
> > >>> >>> > > > language)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > in
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > an
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> easily understandable way.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > Actually a good Chinese translation of the technical
> > docs
> > >>> >>> > requires
> > >>> >>> > > > > > someone
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > with many of the same skills. In order for the
> > >>> translation
> > >>> >>> to be
> > >>> >>> > > > > > accurate,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > you need someone who understands the concepts of the
> > >>> >>> underlying
> > >>> >>> > > > > > technology,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > to use appropriate terminology. Though I agree that
> the
> > >>> >>> ability
> > >>> >>> > to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > distill
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > complex technical concepts is more important when
> > writing
> > >>> >>> initial
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > documentation.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:47 AM Fabian Hueske <
> > >>> >>> > > fhue...@gmail.com>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks for the clarification Aizhamal!
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> This is really helpful and will make it a lot
> > easier
> > >>> to
> > >>> >>> > > > coordinate
> > >>> >>> > > > > > :-)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> As for next steps, I found this email on the
> > >>> >>> > > > > > d...@community.apache.org
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> mailing list:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> ==================================================
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Hi All,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> As mentioned the applications for the Google
> Season
> > >>> of
> > >>> >>> Docs
> > >>> >>> > > > opened
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > today
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of
> the
> > >>> ASF.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or
> two
> > >>> >>> techical
> > >>> >>> > > > > writers.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500
> per
> > >>> >>> technical
> > >>> >>> > > > writer
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to
> > >>> fundraising :-)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Each project that wants to participate must
> provide
> > >>> two
> > >>> >>> > mentors
> > >>> >>> > > > for
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > each
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> documentation project.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> As part of the application process there are a
> few
> > >>> things
> > >>> >>> > that
> > >>> >>> > > we
> > >>> >>> > > > > > need
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> setup.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> We need to create a public webpage about Season
> of
> > >>> Docs
> > >>> >>> that
> > >>> >>> > > > > contains
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > the
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have
> > >>> created a
> > >>> >>> > page
> > >>> >>> > > on
> > >>> >>> > > > > the
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a
> > table
> > >>> for
> > >>> >>> > > projects
> > >>> >>> > > > > to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> record
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> their ideas.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim
> > as
> > >>> the
> > >>> >>> > > > > alternative
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> admin
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and
> > you
> > >>> will
> > >>> >>> > also
> > >>> >>> > > > need
> > >>> >>> > > > > > to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> register as the alternative admin and I will
> email
> > >>> you
> > >>> >>> the
> > >>> >>> > link
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > offline)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 3. Mentors
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> All mentors from the projects interested in
> > >>> participating
> > >>> >>> > must
> > >>> >>> > > > > > register
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> individually at the following link :
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> .
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial
> > Writer
> > >>> >>> > > > Collaboration
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> There is a section to fill in about experience
> with
> > >>> >>> > > documentation
> > >>> >>> > > > > and
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > any
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I
> > >>> know a
> > >>> >>> few
> > >>> >>> > > > > projects
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > have
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> used various tools for documentation - but not
> sure
> > >>> >>> about any
> > >>> >>> > > > > > technical
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then
> > >>> please
> > >>> >>> let
> > >>> >>> > me
> > >>> >>> > > > > know)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> There is a section to complete at our
> participation
> > >>> in
> > >>> >>> GSoC.I
> > >>> >>> > > > > think I
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> have
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> the details from our application this year so can
> > >>> follow
> > >>> >>> up
> > >>> >>> > > with
> > >>> >>> > > > > > Maxim
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > or
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Uli about it
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> This is all I have at the moment and we have
> until
> > >>> the
> > >>> >>> 23rd
> > >>> >>> > > April
> > >>> >>> > > > > > 2019
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I
> > want
> > >>> to
> > >>> >>> have
> > >>> >>> > it
> > >>> >>> > > > > done
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > well
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> before then :-)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Please pass on this information within your
> various
> > >>> >>> projects
> > >>> >>> > > and
> > >>> >>> > > > as
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > with
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information
> out
> > >>> to
> > >>> >>> all
> > >>> >>> > our
> > >>> >>> > > > > > project
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> mailing lists.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Sharan
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> ==================================================
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> I guess, we would need to follow these steps as
> > well.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Best,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Fabian
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Am Do., 11. Apr. 2019 um 05:08 Uhr schrieb Jark
> Wu
> > <
> > >>> >>> > > > > imj...@gmail.com
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Aizhamal,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> That's really interesting. We have an ongoing
> > >>> proposal
> > >>> >>> for
> > >>> >>> > > > > > supporting
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> Chinese documentation, see FLIP-35 [1].
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> I think it's a good idea to propose Chinese
> > >>> translation
> > >>> >>> as a
> > >>> >>> > > > > > project.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> It's
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> a good chance to improve the localization user
> > >>> >>> experience of
> > >>> >>> > > > Flink
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> documentation.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> I can help as a mentor if we want to submit
> such a
> > >>> >>> project.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> Jark Wu
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> [1]:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > >
> > >>> >>> > >
> > >>> >>> >
> > >>> >>>
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-35%3A+Support+Chinese+Documents+and+Website
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 02:11, Aizhamal Nurmamat
> > kyzy
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>> <aizha...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Hello everyone,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> @Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> - SoD setup
> > is
> > >>> a
> > >>> >>> little
> > >>> >>> > > bit
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> different.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> The ASF determined that each project would be
> > >>> allowed
> > >>> >>> to
> > >>> >>> > > apply
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> individually[1], rather than applying as a
> single
> > >>> large
> > >>> >>> > > > > > organization.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Each project applies as an org, with two
> > organizers
> > >>> >>> > > > (administers)
> > >>> >>> > > > > > and
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> at
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> least two mentors. As Konstantin pointed out,
> one
> > >>> can
> > >>> >>> be
> > >>> >>> > both
> > >>> >>> > > > an
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> administer
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> and a mentor. You don't need to coordinate with
> > >>> other
> > >>> >>> > > projects
> > >>> >>> > > > or
> > >>> >>> > > > > > ASF
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> at
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> all. If accepted to the program, you will
> receive
> > >>> >>> project
> > >>> >>> > > > > proposals
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> from
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> tech writers [2]. You will choose one or two
> > >>> proposals
> > >>> >>> that
> > >>> >>> > > you
> > >>> >>> > > > > > want
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> mentor[3].
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> @Ken - as for the language, there isn’t any
> > >>> >>> limitations in
> > >>> >>> > > that
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> regard,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> so
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> work on the Chinese translation for the website
> > is
> > >>> >>> > definitely
> > >>> >>> > > > an
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> acceptable
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> project.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Aizhamal
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> [1]
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > >
> > >>> >>> > >
> > >>> >>> >
> > >>> >>>
> > >>>
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/67e1c2e6041cff1e7f198b615407401f032795130e796adfaacf8071@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> [2]
> > >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> [3]
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > >
> > >>> >>>
> > >>>
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq#slot-allocation
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 8:32 AM Ken Krugler <
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> kkrugler_li...@transpac.com>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Aizhamal,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> I assume SoD is language-agnostic, so one
> > possible
> > >>> >>> project
> > >>> >>> > > > would
> > >>> >>> > > > > > be
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> get
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> a tech writer for the Chinese versions of all
> of
> > >>> the
> > >>> >>> Flink
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> documentation,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> yes?
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> — Ken
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Aizhamal Nurmamat
> > >>> kyzy
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> <aizha...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> TL;DR If you need some improvements for Flink
> > >>> >>> > > documentation,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > apply
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Season of Docs before April 23rd.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Background:
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Season of Docs is like Google Summer of Code,
> > >>> but for
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> documentation.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Projects write ideas on how they would like
> to
> > >>> >>> improve
> > >>> >>> > > their
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> documentation,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> then if they are accepted to the program,
> they
> > >>> will
> > >>> >>> get a
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> professional
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> tech
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> writer to work on the project’s documentation
> > >>> for 3
> > >>> >>> > months.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> Technical
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> writer’s get stipend from Google.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> If you think that Apache Flink could benefit
> > >>> from it,
> > >>> >>> > > please
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> submit
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> application before April 23rd.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> The program requires two administrators, to
> > >>> manage
> > >>> >>> the
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> organization's
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> participation in SoD, and at least two
> mentors
> > to
> > >>> >>> onboard
> > >>> >>> > > > tech
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> writers to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> the project, and work with them closely
> during
> > 3
> > >>> >>> months
> > >>> >>> > > > period
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> [2].
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> To
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> be a
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> mentor in this program, you don't have to be
> a
> > >>> >>> technical
> > >>> >>> > > > > writer,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >> but
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> you
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> must know Flink and the open source well to
> > >>> >>> > > onboard/introduce
> > >>> >>> > > > > > tech
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> writers
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to the project, and be able to support them
> > >>> during
> > >>> >>> the
> > >>> >>> > > whole
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>> process.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I am an administrator for 2 Apache projects,
> > and
> > >>> >>> will be
> > >>> >>> > > more
> > >>> >>> > > > > > than
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> happy
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> share my knowledge on this, if you, as an
> > >>> >>> organization
> > >>> >>> > > decide
> > >>> >>> > > > > to
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>> apply.
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I think it will be great if Flink
> participates
> > >>> in it
> > >>> >>> too!
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Aizhamal
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [2]
> > >>> >>> > > > https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > --------------------------
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > Ken Krugler
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > +1 530-210-6378
> > >>> >>> > > > > > > http://www.scaleunlimited.com
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> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > > >
> > >>> >>> > > >
> > >>> >>> > >
> > >>> >>> >
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> --
> > >>> >>
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