Thursday, June 30, 2016, 8:32:19 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> Please see inline:
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm fine with it, and thanks for working on this.
>>
>> However, one important question wasn't yet answered. Who of the
>> mentors want to be in the PMC after graduation? So far we only have
>> Sergio Fernández. (And as of non-mentors, me, also Evangelia said that
>> he plans to remain.)
>>
> I also have expressed the desire to be part of the PMC, if you agree.

I have missed that somehow, sorry, and of course I agree. So then we
can expect to have 4 PMC members so far.

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany


>> Also, I plant to create a document about making releases and about the
>> project specific development policy. I would put that under the
>> "Community" category on freemarker.org. Do you think that can increase
>> our changes? (The best would be if someone else makes the next release
>> based on that, but certainly we won't wait that much with the
>> graduation attempt.)
>>
>
> That document would be a good asset for the project!
>
> Jacopo

>>
>>
>> Thursday, June 30, 2016, 6:18:47 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>
>> > I have spent some time reading the graduation guidelines, specifically
>> [*].
>> >
>> > Here I am quoting the preparation steps before graduation:
>> > Preparations
>> >
>> >    - Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in the status file
>> >    <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-status>
>> >    - Ensure suitable names
>> >    <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> for
>> >    project name and product names
>> >    - Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases
>> >    <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases>
>> >    - Demonstrate community readiness
>> >    <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community>
>> >    - Ensure Mentors
>> >
>> > <
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor
>> >
>> >     and IPMC
>> >
>> > <
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29
>> >
>> > have
>> >    no remaining issues
>> >    <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues>
>> >
>> >
>> > The first two items (status page update and suitable names search) are in
>> > progress.
>> > Demonstrate ability to create releases is already done.
>> > Demonstrate community readiness is done with the only concern about the
>> > ability to attract new committers and nominate new PMC members: this is
>> our
>> > weak point, not diversity and openess.
>> > The last point, is performed with two votes: an internal vote in this
>> list
>> > to make sure that the FreeMarker PMC and the community are happy about
>> > requesting the graduation; the second vote will happen in the general
>> list
>> > to make sure that the IPMC is happy to recommend to the ASF Board the
>> > graduation (for this vote we will also prepare the resolution for
>> > graduation).
>> >
>> > I would say that before we start the community vote we should complete
>> the
>> > first two items (status page updates and suitable names search) that are
>> > currently in progress: after that I will start a vote thread in this list
>> > and if successful we will prepare a charter and start a vote/discussion
>> on
>> > the general list.
>> >
>> > What do you think?
>> >
>> > Jacopo
>> >
>> > References:
>> >
>> > [*] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Sergio Fernández <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Cool, thanks!
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Since there was a date there, I assume it the name checked, even if
>> >> > informally. But, I have opened an issue for it now:
>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-107
>> >> >
>> >> > And thanks for the status page commit!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Monday, June 27, 2016, 8:52:26 AM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > After you I went though the podling status page gather some
>> >> > > concrete dates from what I found in my inbox, jira, etc.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Actually there is a talks:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >   Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist.
>> >> > >   Please follow the guide to ensure a suitable project/product name.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > that I can find traces at trademarks jira:
>> >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Have we checked by any other mean?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I know Freemarker is a well-established brand since 14 years; but I
>> >> > > guess I'd go though the process just to have the formal ok from
>> legal.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Cheers,
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:21 PM, John D. Ament <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 1:01 PM Daniel Dekany <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> I'm asking this primarily from mentors:
>> >> > >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> There are two thins to note:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> - "Add all active committers in the STATUS file."
>> >> > >>   What STATUS file?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The file at content/projects/freemarker.xml which renders as
>> >> > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> - For many things I have just added a year instead of
>> year-month-day.
>> >> > >>   I hope nobody will care.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Yep, IPMC will care.
>> >> > > You'll want to list out all of your reports - if you can include
>> >> 04/2016
>> >> > as
>> >> > > well.
>> >> > > Many of the dates you have for 07/2015 should be the day you entered
>> >> > > incubation, which is 2015-07-01
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Your name search should be a link to the podlingnamesearch JIRA for
>> >> > > freemarker, I can't find one for the project, so I would recommend
>> that
>> >> > you
>> >> > > create one.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Thanks,
>> >> > >>  Daniel Dekany
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >  Daniel Dekany
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sergio Fernández
>> >> Partner Technology Manager
>> >> Redlink GmbH
>> >> m: +43 6602747925
>> >> e: [email protected]
>> >> w: http://redlink.co
>> >>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Daniel Dekany
>>
>>

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