Thanks for calling this out Ernie! It might be a good idea to cut the release and at the same time keep looking for urgent issues that need to be resolved and merged. Once the branch is cut, we release likelihood of new issues being introduced.
Does anyone know of any other issues, we'd want to make sure get addressed before we ship? On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 3:36 PM Ernest Burghardt <eburgha...@pivotal.io> wrote: > There is a PR #3844 <https://github.com/apache/geode/pull/3844> up to > address GEODE-7012 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-7012> I > think this should be in the next release... > > EB > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:07 PM Alexander Murmann <amurm...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > *Cutting the release* > > Do we have any volunteers to take over the release manager role? > > > > *Re: Udo's concerns* > > While I believe that iterations of this particular work have been > discussed > > on the mailing list as far back as March 2018, I do think that we should > > take Udo's response as an indicator that something with our larger > proposal > > process needs to be improved. We used to have synchronous Geode club > house > > sessions. For future discussions and for proposals in particular, I think > > it would be great to supplement our asynchronous mailing list > communication > > with a synchronous video chat discussions by the community. > > > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:02 PM Dan Smith <dsm...@pivotal.io> wrote: > > > > > +1 for cutting a 1.10.0 release branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:55 PM Nabarun Nag <n...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I believe the original authors of the feature has done their due > > > diligence > > > > and followed all steps, we can get this feature in under the > > Experimental > > > > flag and let the community improve on it, if there is anything else > > that > > > > needs to be done. > > > > > > > > We have done this before for Lucene re-index feature, where we > involved > > > the > > > > entire community in its development, phase by phase. The wiki is up > and > > > > running, if someone has any concerns can raise it as a JIRA or > comment > > in > > > > the wiki and the community as a whole can decide if it is a valid > > > > concern or not and act upon it. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Nabarun Nag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:40 PM Udo Kohlmeyer <u...@apache.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > @Alexander + @Jared, > > > > > > > > > > So maybe that was my misunderstanding on the RFC (not being > optional > > on > > > > > new feature work). Given that this is a new feature, there is > > > > > significant risk to getting it "wrong". > > > > > > > > > > I was expecting more discussion around this. I have some objections > > to > > > > > the current approach/design. Given that my day job does not allow > me > > to > > > > > respond in a timely manner, I would have not been able to get all > my > > > > > concerns raised. In addition, throwing something onto the wiki, and > > > then > > > > > a few weeks before we'd like to cut a version raising a discussion > > > > > thread on work that has been going on for months already does not > > help > > > > > with the community being able to read, digest, think, reason and > > > respond > > > > > BEFORE it is released. > > > > > > > > > > I know `@Experimental` is non-binding on API's or usage, BUT I > prefer > > > > > some of the ground work to have been discussed, API's validated > > BEFORE > > > > > it is released into the wild. I mean this is a PUBLIC API, so we'd > > > > > prefer to get it more correct than the previous one. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it is just me, taking it too serious... Where I prefer not > > > release > > > > > something as close to 95% correct (and discussed). > > > > > > > > > > Anyway.. If we want to cut 1.10... and we should... Let's do so.. > but > > > > > I'd prefer that more on the correctness on the approach. > > > > > > > > > > --Udo > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/19 11:08 AM, Alexander Murmann wrote: > > > > > >> I don't believe we should be including anything into the Geode > > > release > > > > > >> that has not gone through the correct process of feature > proposal. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> All work under the experimental cluster management service has > not > > > yet > > > > > >> been approved by the agreed upon RFC process. > > > > > >> > > > > > > Udo, I didn't take the RFC process that we agreed on to be a gate > > > > keeper, > > > > > > but rather a way to de-risk work before making a PR. > > > > > > > > > > > > From the RFC doc in the wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > >> When to write an RFC? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Writing an RFC should be entirely voluntary. There is always the > > > > option > > > > > of > > > > > >> going straight to a pull request. However, for larger changes, > it > > > > might > > > > > be > > > > > >> wise to de-risk the risk of rejection of the pull request by > first > > > > > >> gathering input from the community. Therefore it’s up to every > > > member > > > > of > > > > > >> our community to decide themselves when they want to reach for > > this > > > > > tool. > > > > > >> > > > > > > If we want to change the role of the RFC process, that's fine > with > > > me, > > > > > but > > > > > > we should have that discussion first. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:30 AM Jared Stewart < > > > > stewart.ja...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> What was missing from the RFC process for the cluster management > > > > > service? > > > > > >> I saw a [Discuss] thread for it, as well as a proposal at > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/GEODE/Cluster+Management+Service > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:02 AM Udo Kohlmeyer <u...@apache.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> I don't believe we should be including anything into the Geode > > > > release > > > > > >>> that has not gone through the correct process of feature > > proposal. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> All work under the experimental cluster management service has > > not > > > > yet > > > > > >>> been approved by the agreed upon RFC process. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I don't believe we should be including this work, experimental > or > > > > > >>> otherwise. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> --Udo > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On 7/22/19 4:51 PM, Alexander Murmann wrote: > > > > > >>>> Udo, do you mind explaining how the RFC process comes into > this? > > > Are > > > > > >> you > > > > > >>>> suggesting that we should wait if an RFC had a target release > > > > > attached? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:47 PM Udo Kohlmeyer <u...@apache.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> I don't think we need to wait for this, as there has been no > > RFC > > > > > >> process > > > > > >>>>> followed. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> --Udo > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> On 7/22/19 3:38 PM, Jinmei Liao wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> Work is still being planned to move the cluster management > > rest > > > > > >> service > > > > > >>>>>> under an experimental version flag and use a geode property > to > > > > turn > > > > > >> it > > > > > >>>>>> on/off. I would say we are ready to cut the geode 1.10.0 > after > > > > that > > > > > >>> work > > > > > >>>>> is > > > > > >>>>>> complete. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:24 PM Alexander Murmann < > > > > > >> amurm...@apache.org > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi everyone! > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> We released Geode 1.9.0 on April 25th. That's about 3 > months > > > ago. > > > > > >> End > > > > > >>> of > > > > > >>>>>>> last year we discussed releasing quarterly. In the past > we've > > > had > > > > > >>> about > > > > > >>>>> a > > > > > >>>>>>> month between cutting a release branch and actually > shipping > > > our > > > > > new > > > > > >>>>> minor. > > > > > >>>>>>> This means we are already behind our target release > cadence. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> What are your thoughts on cutting a 1.10.0 release branch > > this > > > > > week? > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Would anyone like to volunteer to be the release manager > for > > > > geode > > > > > >>>>> 1.10.0? > > > > > >>>>>>> Thank you all! > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
