On Aug 25, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

On Aug 25, 2005, at 1:47 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

On Aug 24, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

David Blevins wrote:

We've shipped four non-certified Jetty distributions, let's go ahead with a Tomcat distribution in the same vein. If we need to go over some J2EE licensing requirements, let's do it on the TCK list.

When we did that we only released one binary so there was no ambiguity in the release. If the Jetty version of M5 is certified and the Tomcat version isn't, it will be misleading to users.

-1 on any M5 binary that is not certified.

IIRC a release can not be vetoed except for a technical reason, so this is a -1 opinion and not a official veto.

Sorta - we do have an issue that other projects don't have, which is explicit or implicit statements about compatibility. IOW, there's a legal issue here. But lets park this for now as we don't have enough information, so we don't even know if we have a problem.

So what do you think about the issue itself? Do you want to see a certified distro w/ Tomcat?

I have a pragmatic view on this. I would like to there to be a certified Tomcat M5, but if it isn't going to happen anytime soon, I personally would rather ship M5 and shoot for Tomcat certification in M6. Legally we can choose to ship uncertified non-GA release. No matter if a release is certified or not, the Geronimo project needs to be crystal clear about the certification status of any binary we distribute.

I personally feel that having tomcat as a certified, first-class citizen is important and good for us. The only question I see is what certifying w/ Tomcat does to our M5 timeline, and I don't think we have enough information to decide either way at this point.

Tomcat is a first-class citizen and is important to us. If turns out that we are unable to certify it in a reasonable time that would be unfortunate, and we would have to decide how to deal with that.

I'm hoping Jeff (or anyone else) can run the TCK on Tomcat to see where we are, and then decide from there.

+1

-dain

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