I like the idea of a tree. The headings for each category are descriptive enough that I don't think we'd lose usability by hiding what's under each category until needed.
On Feb 12, 2008 11:35 AM, David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote: > > > Shiva Kumar H R wrote: > >> On Feb 11, 2008 10:12 PM, David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >> On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> 3a is implemented in 2.1 > >>> > >>> Is there an admin console page for this already implemented? > >> yes, the bottom of the plugin page. Also there's a gshell > >> command > >> for it > >> "Assemble a server" option looks too hidden under other features : > >> ( . A portlet on it's own would have better grabbed the attention > >> of users towards it. We must at least highlight it now in our > >> documentation. > > > > I think both. This feature is important enough to be on its own, > > probably under 'Server' and we definitively need to document in > > deep how it works. That includes explaining the plugin architecture > > as well. > > I'll see if I can get the plugin architecture documentation kicked > off this week. > > I think we should either change the left-hand menu item to something > more inclusive that "plugins" (my current preference) or create a new > group in the left hand menu with "add plugins" "edit plugin" and > "extract server" (I think this will make the LHM too long). > > The LHM is getting pretty long. I wonder if we can do something to > shorten it -- perhaps a tree? > > thanks > david jencks > > > > Cheers! > > Hernan > > > >> -- > >> Thanks, > >> Shiva > >> david jencks > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Despite my liking for xmlbeans and its unique strengths I > >>> think a very strong argument can be made for moving the > >>> deployer code to jaxb. > >>> > >>> Interesting!! Let me do some quick learning of jaxb and start a > >>> separate thread on this. > >>> > >>> > >>> thanks > >>> david jencks > >>> > >>> On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote: > >>> > >>>> I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in reference > >>>> to this: > >>>> i) "[DISCUSS/FEEDBACK] Usability improvements to > >>>> Geronimo" mail from Prasad in Nov'07 > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>> msg53236.html > >>>> ii) "[Discuss] What next?" mail from DJencks in Aug'07 > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>> msg50660.html > >>>> iii) "[DISCUSS] Geronimo 2.1 - what's next?" mail from > >>>> Matt in Jul'07 > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>> msg48173.html > >>>> > >>>> Alright, here is my wish list - features that I would > >>>> love to > >>>> see getting into Geronimo in 2008: > >>>> 1) Deployment Environment: > >>>> a) Plan Creator wizards (in Admin Console & in Geronimo > >>>> Eclipse Plugin) for geronimo-application.xml and *many* > >>>> other > >>>> Geronimo deployment plans. > >>>> b) Geronimo specific annotations: To further > >>>> simplify the > >>>> specification of Geronimo deployment information, right at > >>>> development time. > >>>> > >>>> 2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP): > >>>> a) Model framework for Geronimo deployment plans: > >>>> Currently it is EMF (Eclipse Modeling Framework). With > >>>> every > >>>> update to Geronimo deployment schema, it's a major pain to > >>>> generate new EMF classes. If however, GEP uses the same > >>>> model > >>>> framework as that of Geronimo server (XMLBeans), then at > >>>> least this problem would be solved. IIUC JSR-88 > >>>> DConfigBeans > >>>> would be the ideal model framework for GEP - in that case > >>>> even if the model framework of server changes in future, > >>>> GEP > >>>> would be unaffected. > >>>> b) Critical bug fixes > >>>> c) Make "Download and Install" option more intuitive > >>>> d) Customize Web Services Wizard: > >>>> The default implementation of WTP's web services wizard > >>>> embeds an Axis engine inside a web-app and then deploys > >>>> it in > >>>> a web server such as Tomcat. However this isn't the right > >>>> approach for Geronimo as it already has a global web > >>>> services > >>>> engine deployed. Hence web services wizard's behavior > >>>> must be > >>>> customized when deploying onto Geronimo. > >>>> e) Better Remote server support > >>>> f) Testsuite Automation > >>>> g) Integrating JavaEE Samples. > >>>> > >>>> 3) Admin Console Tools: > >>>> a) Server Build Tool: For instance, a "button" to push > >>>> that spits out a server with just what is needed for a > >>>> set of > >>>> apps and nothing else. > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>> msg54849.html > >>>> b) Cluster Admin Tools: Geronimo has a lot of partial > >>>> clustering solutions. For instance there's WADI, native > >>>> tomcat clustering, a terracotta integration, and many > >>>> others. > >>>> A cluster admin tool would be of great help in the > >>>> setting-up > >>>> and fine-tuning of those clustering solutions. > >>>> > >>>> I am stuck in 1) a) Plan Creator work for the past year > >>>> or so > >>>> and it is still not complete! So if I alone work on many of > >>>> those features, God alone knows when I will complete them. > >>>> Any takers/collaborators? > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 7, 2008 8:28 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> Geronimo had a great year 2007. I don't need to re- > >>>> list > >>>> all our achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st > >>>> Dec > >>>> 2007 > >>>> (http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>> msg54994.html). Now that 2.1 is also rolling out, I > >>>> think it is time we > >>>> start discussing what we want to do in Geronimo in year > >>>> 2008. Let us also discuss what we "must" do to make > >>>> Geronimo an application server of choice. I would like > >>>> all of us to use this mail thread to put forth our > >>>> thoughts (and any action items some of us may have > >>>> already come up with silently) so that the community > >>>> can > >>>> see what great heights Geronimo will scale in 2008. > >>>> > >>>> Thank you. > >>>> > >>>> ++Vamsi > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- Thanks, > >>>> Shiva > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- Thanks, > >>> Shiva > >
