You know that this is a chicken-egg problem and that there are many projects which did totally different? Oracle is also actively using the org.apache package names, whoops … Lets stop that legal discussion. You are not a lawyer.
LieGrue, strub > Am 15.07.2016 um 00:57 schrieb Werner Keil <[email protected]>: > > What's out on GitHub is taken for granted and can be forked and cloned as > you know. > > A POC must not be called javax.config without a JSR ever being proposed or > accepted just to try out "how it feels". > When JSR 275 was stopped we took the ideas and working concepts to a new > project "unitsofmeasurement.org" for almost 5 years, not just do a "rogue > JSR". > Only when JSR 363 was approved we reused the namespace. > > So as a POC call it "config" if you like but not "javax.config", > "java.config" or "jdk.config" that implies a working JSR or parts of the > JDK;-) > > Cheers > > Werner Keil | JCP Executive Committee Member, JSR 363 Co Spec Lead | > Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Apache Committer > > Twitter @wernerkeil | @UnitAPI | @JSR354 | @AgoravaProj | @DeviceMap > | #DevOps | #EclipseUOMo > Skype werner.keil | Google+ gplus.to/wernerkeil > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 12:48 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Le 15 juil. 2016 00:46, "Werner Keil" <[email protected]> a écrit : >>> >>> Yes but neither at Apache nor elsewhere you can just go and declare "your >>> JSR", this is unacceptable especially from the package space point. >>> A JSR under "javax.something" is only allowed for an EG once a JSR was >>> filed and approved by the Executive Committee. >>> >>> Mark is free to register any domain like "marksconfig.io" because .io is >>> just hip now and used by everybody and declare that project on GitHub. >>> If someone wishes to propose a new JSR, go ahead and do so under >>> https://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/proposal but not like that ;-( >>> >>> Nobody did so, thus if it ever happened, any of the mentioned projects >> may >>> be listed as "initial contribution", inspiration or whatever, but simply >>> throwing something out there under javax.config is unconstructive, just >>> because you you're unhappy with either Apache Commons Config, Typesafe >>> Config, Spring Config, DeltaSpike Config or Tamaya. >>> >> >> It is a proposal/poc. Let s keep focus on real topic and dont flame Mark >> yet on details >> >>> Cheers, >>> Werner >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 12:36 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau < >> [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Tamaya is far beyond a JSR in design and impl. It is a promishing >> product >>>> but too opponiated to be a JSR today IMO. Config needs something >> smaller. >>>> DS solution is a pretty good start for that. >>>> >>>> Le 15 juil. 2016 00:33, "Oliver B. Fischer" <[email protected]> >> a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>> I a little bit confused. As I know our common goal is to establish a >>>>> configuration JSR based on Tamaya. I wouldn't like to see here a race >> for >>>>> the one how submits its JSR first.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 15.07.16 um 00:24 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau: >>>>> >>>>>> +1 Mark if it can be a real JSR otherwise we can stick with DS and >>>> Tamaya >>>>>> for asf. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 15 juil. 2016 00:20, "John D. Ament" <[email protected]> a >>>> écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Doesn't this overlap with another project you've been involved with, >>>>>>> Tamaya? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2016 6:10 PM, "Mark Struberg" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve started to extract the configuration work I’ve done in OWB, >>>> MyFaces >>>>>>> and DeltaSpike into an own little project. >>>>>>> For the MyFaces and DeltaSpike parts I got help from ASF member >> Gerhard >>>>>>> Petracek. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My goal is to establish an own JSR for configuration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So far it consists of 2 classes for the API and 4 classes for the >> SPI. >>>>>>> The source can be found here. >>>>>>> https://github.com/struberg/javaConfig >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And that’s pretty much it! There is not much more needed for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would love to move this to Geronimo. Simply because geronimo is >> kind >>>> of >>>>>>> an EE-commons for the ASF nowadays ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wdyt? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LieGrue, >>>>>>> strub >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> N Oliver B. Fischer >>>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany >>>>> P +49 30 44793251 >>>>> M +49 178 7903538 >>>>> E [email protected] >>>>> S oliver.b.fischer >>>>> J [email protected] >>>>> X http://xing.to/obf >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>
