Anatole/all, Thanks for the feedback. I know how the likes of those at Oracle would (or will) respond to this who also are half-way entangled between legal and development. E.g. Jim Wright, who told JSRs like the one I lead with others to use Apache 2.0 then only to declare the Apache license was incompatible with OpenJDK and the JCP ;-|
Also John who has been helpful and very clear about Apache's legal views and requirements towards Tamaya will know best, if it tolerates a fork of Geronimo in the way Mark created it. I know, when former committers to DeviceMap created a similar fork on GitHub they were told they may do so, but not call it"org.apache" either. I hope you guys can settle differences and work constructively together, both at Apache, JCP or elsewhere. Cheers, Werner Keil | JCP Executive Committee Member, JSR 363 Co Spec Lead | Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | Apache Committer Twitter @wernerkeil | @UnitAPI | @JSR354 | @AgoravaProj | @DeviceMap | #DevOps | #EclipseUOMo Skype werner.keil | Google+ gplus.to/wernerkeil On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Anatole Tresch <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all > > Folks, calm down a bit. Neverthess what I really dislike, is > > 1) that after so much work done, and neither Mark nor Romain being actively > participating on the project the last months you raise your own initiative > without involving the other people here. > 2) That the whole Tamaya project is too bis for a JSR is clear, > nevertheless the API part may be still small enough (it is smaller than > the money JSR...). This was clearly stated from the start, just remember > this. > 3) That you start your initiative outside of Tamaya, indirectly > damaging/ignoring the work done so far. > > So, please collaborate with the guys here on the project, instead of > running your own thing. Without joining our forces things probably will not > be successful at all, which would be huge damage. There is much more > politics involved that you can ever imagine, ignoring that point is simply > naive IMO. > > And the scope discussion basically is something to be taken within a JSR, > if we have one running... > > Thanks, J > Anatole > > > > > 2016-07-15 2:07 GMT+02:00 Werner Keil <[email protected]>: > > > It really makes a "People's Front of Judea" or maybe rather say "People's > > Front of JCP" impression here;-) > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > *Anatole Tresch* > PPMC Member Apache Tamaya > JCP Star Spec Lead > *Switzerland, Europe Zurich, GMT+1* > *maketechsimple.wordpress.com <http://maketechsimple.wordpress.com/> * > *Twitter: @atsticks, @tamayaconf* >
