Would it be fair to say there's not much appetite right now for framework
support beyond groovy-the-language and gradle?

Grails has quite a lot of usage, and they aren't going to upgrade to 3 all
that quickly.

Are the GGTS bits somehow encumbered beyond the groovy-eclipse plugin? Or
just not of interest?

GGTS does work for now, so I'm not trying to push this as a priority, but I
think it would help.

Only an opinion ... I'll ask again in a few months .. :-)



On 6 April 2015 at 22:00, KARR, DAVID <[email protected]> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russel Winder [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:01 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: GGTS/ Eclipse support for the groovy ecosystem
> >
> > On Mon, 2015-04-06 at 17:38 +0200, Cédric Champeau wrote:
> > […]
> > > As for maintaining Groovy Eclipse (not GGTS), we should really
> > try
> > > to find
> > > a new team capable of handling this. It is basically a set of
> > patches
> > > applied on the Groovy compiler (that cannot be integrated into
> > the
> > > normal
> > > compiler for a lot of different reasons), and it needs a good
> > > knowledge of
> > > Eclipse. Once we find those people (that's a call!), I know that
> > the
> > > current Groovy Eclipse maintainers at Pivotal are willing to help
> > to
> > > transfer knowledge.
> > […]
> >
> > I too am not really an Eclipse user, but there is a collection of
> > people using it as their only IDE. Many of them are getting into
> > Gradle (I am doing some Gradle workshops shortly to such people).
> >
> > The Eclipse Gradle plugin is currently a Pivotal thing, I hope that
> > Gradleware will take over management of this.
>
> I believe that this is exactly what is happening.  I was told this work is
> scheduled for a first release along with Eclipse Mars, in June of this year.
>
> > Eclipse with Gradle can be used without the Groovy plugin, but it
> > seems very clunky to do this, it all works better if both the
> > Gradle
> > and Groovy plugins are in place.
> >
> > As Jon Kerridge pointed out in another thread, and I can attest to
> > personally, the snapshot Groovy plugin supports Groovy 2.4 and
> > seems
> > to work well. It needs to be released and framework put in place to
> > manage the ongoing evolution alongside Groovy.
> >
> > I wonder if the Groovy (and Gradle?) plugin perhaps needs to become
> > an
> > Eclipse project in an analogous way that Groovy became an Apache
> > one.
> >
> > --
> > Russel.
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