>> It asks: "How do I figure what of backup/restore feature is going to be
in
>>hbase-2.0.0?

Hmm, wait for doc update.


On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:

> HBASE-14414 is a JIRA with a list of random seeming issues w/ non-descript
> summaries: "Add nonce support to TableBackupProcedure, BackupID must
> include backup set name, ...". The last comment in that issue is from July.
> It asks: "How do I figure what of backup/restore feature is going to be in
> hbase-2.0.0? Thanks Vladimir Rodionov
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=vrodionov>."
> to which there is no answer.  Doc update is TODO.
>
> Where is the summary of the capability in hbase-2? What testing and at what
> scale has testing been done? Is this 'stable or experimental'? If I can't
> get basic info on this feature though I ask repeatedly, what hope does the
> poor old operator have?
>
> St.Ack
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Vladimir Rodionov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > HBASE-14414
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Where do I go to get the current status of this feature? Looking in
> JIRA
> > I
> > > see loads of issues open against backup including some against
> > hbase-2.0.0
> > > and no progress being made that I can discern.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > S
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Vladimir Rodionov <
> > > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> >> and/or he answered most of the review feedback
> > > >>>
> > > >>> No, questions are still open, but I do not see any blockers and we
> > have
> > > >>> HBASE-16940 to address these questions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> Agree. No blockers but stuff that should be dealt with (No one will
> > pay
> > > >> me any attention once merge goes in -- smile).
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > Let me clarify the above. I want review addressed before merge
> happens.
> > > > Sorry if any confusion.
> > > > St.Ack
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> St.Ack
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Devaraj Das <[email protected]
> >
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Hi Stack, hats off to you for spending so much time on this!
> > Thanks!
> > > >>> From
> > > >>> > my understanding, Vlad has raised follow-up jiras for the issues
> > you
> > > >>> > raised, and/or he answered most of the review feedback. So, do
> you
> > > >>> think we
> > > >>> > could do a merge vote now?
> > > >>> > Devaraj.
> > > >>> > ________________________________________
> > > >>> > From: Vladimir Rodionov <[email protected]>
> > > >>> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:34 PM
> > > >>> > To: [email protected]
> > > >>> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Merge Backup / Restore - Branch
> > HBASE-7912
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > >> I have spent a good bit of time reviewing and testing this
> > > feature.
> > > >>> I
> > > >>> > would
> > > >>> > >> like my review and concerns addressed and I'd like it to be
> > clear
> > > >>> how;
> > > >>> > >> either explicit follow-on issues, pointers to where in the
> patch
> > > or
> > > >>> doc
> > > >>> > my
> > > >>> > >> remarks have been catered to, etc. Until then, I am against
> > > commit.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Stack, mega patch review comments will be addressed in the
> > dedicated
> > > >>> JIRA:
> > > >>> > HBASE-16940
> > > >>> > I have open several other JIRAs to address your other comments
> (not
> > > on
> > > >>> > review board).
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Details are here (end of the thread):
> > > >>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-14123
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Let me know what else should we do to move merge forward.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > -Vlad
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Ted Yu <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > Thanks, Matteo.
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > bq. restore is not clear if given an incremental id it will
> do
> > > the
> > > >>> full
> > > >>> > > > restore from full up to that point or if i need to apply
> > manually
> > > >>> > > > everything
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > The restore takes into consideration of the dependent
> > backup(s).
> > > >>> > > > So there is no need to apply preceding backup(s) manually.
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > I ask this question on the issue. It is not clear from the
> usage
> > or
> > > >>> doc
> > > >>> > how
> > > >>> > > to run a restore from incremental. Can you fix in doc and usage
> > how
> > > >>> so I
> > > >>> > > can be clear and try it. Currently I am stuck verifying a round
> > > trip
> > > >>> > backup
> > > >>> > > restore made of incrementals.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > Thanks,
> > > >>> > > S
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Matteo Bertozzi <
> > > >>> > > [email protected]>
> > > >>> > > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > > > > I did one last pass to the mega patch. I don't see anything
> > > major
> > > >>> > that
> > > >>> > > > > should block the merge.
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > - most of the code is isolated in the backup package
> > > >>> > > > > - all the backup code is client side
> > > >>> > > > > - there are few changes to the server side, mainly for
> > > cleaners,
> > > >>> wal
> > > >>> > > > > rolling and similar (which is ok)
> > > >>> > > > > - there is a good number of tests, and an integration test
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > the code seems to have still some left overs from the old
> > > >>> > > implementation,
> > > >>> > > > > and some stuff needs a cleanup. but I don't think this
> should
> > > be
> > > >>> used
> > > >>> > > as
> > > >>> > > > an
> > > >>> > > > > argument to block the merge. I think the guys will keep
> > working
> > > >>> on
> > > >>> > this
> > > >>> > > > and
> > > >>> > > > > they may also get help of others once the patch is in
> master.
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > I still have my concerns about the current limitations, but
> > > >>> these are
> > > >>> > > > > things already planned for phase 3, so some of this stuff
> may
> > > >>> even be
> > > >>> > > in
> > > >>> > > > > the final 2.0.
> > > >>> > > > > but as long as we have a "current limitations" section in
> the
> > > >>> user
> > > >>> > > guide
> > > >>> > > > > mentioning important stuff like the ones below, I'm ok with
> > it.
> > > >>> > > > >  - if you write to the table with Durability.SKIP_WALS your
> > > data
> > > >>> will
> > > >>> > > not
> > > >>> > > > > be in the incremental-backup
> > > >>> > > > >  - if you bulkload files that data will not be in the
> > > incremental
> > > >>> > > backup
> > > >>> > > > > (HBASE-14417)
> > > >>> > > > >  - the incremental backup will not only contains the data
> of
> > > the
> > > >>> > table
> > > >>> > > > you
> > > >>> > > > > specified but also the regions from other tables that are
> on
> > > the
> > > >>> same
> > > >>> > > set
> > > >>> > > > > of RSs (HBASE-14141) ...maybe a note about security around
> > this
> > > >>> topic
> > > >>> > > > >  - the incremental backup will not contains just the
> "latest
> > > row"
> > > >>> > > between
> > > >>> > > > > backup A and B, but it will also contains all the updates
> > > >>> occurred in
> > > >>> > > > > between. but the restore does not allow you to restore up
> to
> > a
> > > >>> > certain
> > > >>> > > > > point in time, the restore will always be up to the "latest
> > > >>> backup
> > > >>> > > > point".
> > > >>> > > > >  - you should limit the number of "incremental" up to N (or
> > > maybe
> > > >>> > > SIZE),
> > > >>> > > > to
> > > >>> > > > > avoid replay time becoming the bottleneck. (HBASE-14135)
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > I'll be ok even with the above not being in the final 2.0,
> > > >>> > > > > but i'd like to see as blocker for the final 2.0 (not the
> > > merge)
> > > >>> > > > >  - the backup code moved in an hbase-backup module
> > > >>> > > > >  - and some more work around tools, especially to try to
> > unify
> > > >>> and
> > > >>> > make
> > > >>> > > > > simple the backup experience (simple example: in some case
> > > there
> > > >>> is a
> > > >>> > > > > backup_id argument in others a backupId argument. or things
> > > >>> like..
> > > >>> > > > restore
> > > >>> > > > > is not clear if given an incremental id it will do the full
> > > >>> restore
> > > >>> > > from
> > > >>> > > > > full up to that point or if i need to apply manually
> > > everything).
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > in conclusion, I think we can open a merge vote. I'll be +1
> > on
> > > >>> it,
> > > >>> > and
> > > >>> > > I
> > > >>> > > > > think we should try to reject -1 with just a "code cleanup"
> > > >>> > motivation,
> > > >>> > > > > since there will still be work going on on the code after
> the
> > > >>> merge.
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > Matteo
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Devaraj Das <
> > > >>> [email protected]>
> > > >>> > > > wrote:
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > > > > Stack and others, anything else on the patch? Merge to
> > master
> > > >>> now?
> > > >>> > > > > >
> > > >>> > > > >
> > > >>> > > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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