If we set the minJDK to 11 I believe that will effectively remove jdk8 support, rather than "just" deprecate it.
As we build out more robust testing I would be in favor of running less of it on deprecated JDKs. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 16:10 Josh Elser <[email protected]> wrote: > Deprecating jdk8 for HBase 3 and requiring minJdk=11 seems reasonable to > me. > > Gotta start pushing the issue somehow. > > On 2/15/22 1:47 PM, Sean Busbey wrote: > > Hi folks! > > > > It's been some time since we decided to stick to LTS JDK releases as a > way > > of getting a handle on the JDK treadmill. > > > > What do folks think about deprecating JDK8? The openjdk8u project is > still > > going and there are commercial support options at least through 2030. > > > > Deprecating it in HBase 3 would mean we could remove it in HBase 4, not > > that we would _have_ to remove it. The way I think about likely timing of > > these events goes like this: > > > > * HBase 2 started alphas in June 2017, betas in January 2018, and came > out > > in April 2018 > > * HBase 3 started alphas in July 2021, and as of Feb 2022 we haven't > > discussed how close we are to our stated beta goals (upgrades from active > > 2.x releases and removal of not-ready features). > > > > Given the above, in the absence of us specifically pushing to roll > through > > major version numbers for some reason, I think a reasonably conservative > > estimate is for HBase 3 to arrive in late 2022 or early 2023 and then > HBase > > 4 to start alphas in ~2025. An HBase 5 prior to 2030 seems unlikely. > > > > That all said, our current reference guide section on java versions does > > not sound very confident about JDK11 support. > > > >> A Note on JDK11 * > >> Preliminary support for JDK11 is introduced with HBase 2.3.0. This > > support is limited to > >> compilation and running the full test suite. There are open questions > > regarding the runtime > >> compatibility of JDK11 with Apache ZooKeeper and Apache Hadoop > > (HADOOP-15338). > >> Significantly, neither project has yet released a version with explicit > > runtime support for > >> JDK11. The remaining known issues in HBase are catalogued in > HBASE-22972. > >> > > > > Since that blurb was written, Hadoop has added JDK11 support [1] as has > > ZooKeeper[2]. As a part of buttoning up our JDK11 support we could update > > our minimum supported versions of these projects to match that support. > > > > What do folks think? > > > > [1]: https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r3.3.0/index.html > > [2]: > > https://zookeeper.apache.org/doc/r3.6.0/zookeeperAdmin.html#sc_systemReq > > >
