The problem that leads us to consider '--release 8', or what it would
promise if it worked, isn't Unsafe, it is ByteBuffer.
https://www.morling.dev/blog/bytebuffer-and-the-dreaded-nosuchmethoderror/
. Although to your point Netty has ByteBuf...


On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 5:23 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Since we have shaded netty, I think we could make use of
> netty's PlatformDependent[1] class to avoid referencing Unsafe directly,
> then there will be no problem for us to use the '--release 8' option.
>
> If no big concerns, I will file an issue to remove all the sun.misc.Unsafe
> references in our code base and make use of PlatformDependent from the
> shaded netty.
>
> Thanks.
>
> 1.
>
> https://github.com/netty/netty/blob/4.1/common/src/main/java/io/netty/util/internal/PlatformDependent.java
>
> 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> 于2022年2月16日周三 14:12写道:
>
> > I think this could be done by some module tricks, where we build a
> special
> > module with -source 8 and -target 8.We have done similar things in the
> past
> > to have hadoop1-compat and hadoop2-compact.
> >
> > Let me have a try.
> >
> > Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org> 于2022年2月16日周三 13:31写道:
> >
> >> Unfortunately if we want to keep jdk8 working we can't rely on building
> >> with the jdk release target option on newer jdks.
> >>
> >> We ran into this recently in HBASE-25465 where a JDK bug came up.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:12 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1 on moving the minimum required java version for compiling HBase to
> >> Java
> >> > 11. But we could still use --release=8 to still support jdk8 at
> runtime.
> >> >
> >> > Java 8 is still widely used, and I believe this will last for even
> more
> >> > years, as lots of big companies such as RedHat, Microsoft and Amazon
> are
> >> > still shipping new jdk8 releases, I do not think it is time to fully
> >> drop
> >> > the support of jdk8.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org> 于2022年2月16日周三 09:57写道:
> >> >
> >> > > If we set the minJDK to 11 I believe that will effectively remove
> jdk8
> >> > > support, rather than "just" deprecate it.
> >> > >
> >> > > As we build out more robust testing I would be in favor of running
> >> less
> >> > of
> >> > > it on deprecated JDKs.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 16:10 Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Deprecating jdk8 for HBase 3 and requiring minJdk=11 seems
> >> reasonable
> >> > to
> >> > > > me.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Gotta start pushing the issue somehow.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 2/15/22 1:47 PM, Sean Busbey wrote:
> >> > > > > Hi folks!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > It's been some time since we decided to stick to LTS JDK
> releases
> >> as
> >> > a
> >> > > > way
> >> > > > > of getting a handle on the JDK treadmill.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > What do folks think about deprecating JDK8? The openjdk8u
> project
> >> is
> >> > > > still
> >> > > > > going and there are commercial support options at least through
> >> 2030.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Deprecating it in HBase 3 would mean we could remove it in HBase
> >> 4,
> >> > not
> >> > > > > that we would _have_ to remove it. The way I think about likely
> >> > timing
> >> > > of
> >> > > > > these events goes like this:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > * HBase 2 started alphas in June 2017, betas in January 2018,
> and
> >> > came
> >> > > > out
> >> > > > > in April 2018
> >> > > > > * HBase 3 started alphas in July 2021, and as of Feb 2022 we
> >> haven't
> >> > > > > discussed how close we are to our stated beta goals (upgrades
> from
> >> > > active
> >> > > > > 2.x releases and removal of not-ready features).
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Given the above, in the absence of us specifically pushing to
> roll
> >> > > > through
> >> > > > > major version numbers for some reason, I think a reasonably
> >> > > conservative
> >> > > > > estimate is for HBase 3 to arrive in late 2022 or early 2023 and
> >> then
> >> > > > HBase
> >> > > > > 4 to start alphas in ~2025. An HBase 5 prior to 2030 seems
> >> unlikely.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > That all said, our current reference guide section on java
> >> versions
> >> > > does
> >> > > > > not sound very confident about JDK11 support.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> A Note on JDK11 *
> >> > > > >> Preliminary support for JDK11 is introduced with HBase 2.3.0.
> >> This
> >> > > > > support is limited to
> >> > > > >> compilation and running the full test suite. There are open
> >> > questions
> >> > > > > regarding the runtime
> >> > > > >> compatibility of JDK11 with Apache ZooKeeper and Apache Hadoop
> >> > > > > (HADOOP-15338).
> >> > > > >> Significantly, neither project has yet released a version with
> >> > > explicit
> >> > > > > runtime support for
> >> > > > >> JDK11. The remaining known issues in HBase are catalogued in
> >> > > > HBASE-22972.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Since that blurb was written, Hadoop has added JDK11 support [1]
> >> as
> >> > has
> >> > > > > ZooKeeper[2]. As a part of buttoning up our JDK11 support we
> could
> >> > > update
> >> > > > > our minimum supported versions of these projects to match that
> >> > support.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > What do folks think?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [1]: https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r3.3.0/index.html
> >> > > > > [2]:
> >> > > > >
> >> > >
> >>
> https://zookeeper.apache.org/doc/r3.6.0/zookeeperAdmin.html#sc_systemReq
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>


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