All, I speak for a few people I work with when I say that heron has a unique place in the streaming/analytic space. Have used storm, kafka streams, and other frameworks. I feel heron is easily the most simplistic, lowest cost to entry framework out there.
Personally, if heron would to expand its k8a capabilities such as horizontal pod autoscaler, health checks on bolts,, better dashboard, perhaps open trace? Then heron would be a one stop shop for highly efficient, scalable, robust streaming solution. Basically, how can I help? Thanks Jim On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 7:33 AM Josh Fischer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Windham, I agree with everything you said. Most importantly what stood out > to me is the lack of documentation that covers why or how someone would use > Heron. I agree with Dave, we should try to organize and set some goals for > us to complete within the next few weeks and months. > > I don't want to see Heron go. It's the first big open source project I've > worked on and I'd hate to get all teary eyed over a bunch of code that > retired at the Apache Foundation. > > How would everyone feel if we used this github project > https://github.com/apache/incubator-heron/projects/4 to track some tasks? > This way we could give some visibility to people trying to learn what's > going on with the community? > > What is left outstanding with our 0.23.0-incubating release? Let's add > those tasks to the github project above. > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:59 PM Ning Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks! That's a lot of helpful information! > > > > Agreed that documentation and examples can be better to lower the barrier > > and be more friendly to new users. > > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 7:42 PM Windham Wong <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > I am new to Apache foundation thing and I want to point out a thing > that, > > > when start trying Heron, i got a very big barrier that the > documentation > > is > > > not good enough to do quick start and good understanding the structure > of > > > Heron. I saw a few people asking about how to launch the demo topology > > with > > > facing some technical issues related to python version and > > configurations. > > > > > > For my point of view, we are using Heron as production for log parsing > > > system, and we see great opportunity of increasing the usage of Heron > > with > > > our growth of business. However, recalling my experience when started > > > looking into Heron, the learning curve isn't too high but still much > > higher > > > than other software or systems. I believe the documentation requires > more > > > improvement to let new users to understand more quickly. Furthermore, > > for a > > > business aspect, I believe Heron requires more use case promotion to > > > people. Many don't know what to do with a piece of software and they > > forget > > > about it after some time. Cross-language support (Java/Python/Lua/C++) > is > > > great for people in different field to start using it, but they can't > > find > > > a blog/article/tutorial/youtube to realise what they can do with it. I > am > > > thinking if we can ask companies to share their experience of using > > Heron, > > > and also some personal to share what they can do or their idea would > help > > > the community growth. > > > Sorry for the long words. > > > Windham Wong > > > OSWE, OSCP, GCIA, Specialist in Cybersecurity > > > Co-Founder, Managing Partner of > > > Stormeye.io, Hong Kong Managed Security Operation Center Limited > > > Email // [email protected] ( > > > > > > https://link.getmailspring.com/link/[email protected]/1?redirect=mailto%3Awindham.wong%40stormeye.io&recipient=ZGV2QGhlcm9uLmluY3ViYXRvci5hcGFjaGUub3Jn > > > ) > > > Phone // +852_3590_2212_|_+852_9832_0707 (tel:+85235902212) > > > Fax // +852_3590_2202 (tel:+852_3590_2202) > > > > > > On 10月 16 2020, at 4:44 凌晨, Ning Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thanks Dave! > > > > > > > > IMO our goal is to have an official release, which has been > > challenging. > > > At > > > > the same time, some kubernetes and python works are going on at > least. > > I > > > > remember the issue we found in the latest release candidate was > Python > > 3 > > > > related. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:51 PM Dave Fisher <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > It would be helpful to have more discussion about what is happening > > on > > > > > this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > I’m your last active Mentor and I joined only when it seemed like > the > > > > > start of incubation was blocked. > > > > > > > > > > Please show the activity with some visible direction. > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Sree Vaddi < > [email protected] > > > .INVALID> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Heron will continue to live long. > > > > > > It has it's own place in the stream processing world among other > > > > > competing technologies.The ever increasing data has stretched > > > competitions > > > > > to the limits of breaking. > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition: > > > > > > In production at the creating company and others around the > > > world.Best > > > > > open source alternative to Google Dataflow, from the recent talks. > > > > > > Higher freedom to customizations, makes it attractive for > > innovation. > > > > > > 27 continuous monthly meetups. > > > > > > Slack is active.Mailing lists are active. > > > > > > 455 meetup members and counting.40 linkedin group members and > > > counting. > > > > > > > > > > > > All of these, just by a few bunch of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is too early for 'retirement' talk, IMHO. > > > > > > Let's focus on, making it to TLP. > > > > > > Taking one task or part of it at a time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you./Sree > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:00:10 AM PDT, H W < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The community size and activity look steady rather than > dwindling. > > > The > > > > > > heronstreaming slack is still active. The > > > > > conversations/meetups/discussions > > > > > > keep going well. > > > > > > As for 'retirement' I think that would be premature > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:29 AM Ning Wang <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hmm. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Community isn't very active, but there are still works going on > > > (python, > > > > > >> k8s/helm, etc) and a few users relying on the project. IMO it is > > too > > > > > early > > > > > >> to retire. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 5:57 PM Josh Fischer < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Hi All, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> It seems the community is dwindling for Heron. I think it is > time > > > to > > > > > >> start > > > > > >>> a discussion on retiring the podling. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Thoughts? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> - Josh > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
