On Jan 30, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Johan Lindquist wrote:

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A Wiki would probably be a better location for the docs for sure, but
the examples may be better off in the source tree to avoid typos that
prevent compilation etc.  Also, by having it in source, you help the
user (re-)package the example should he want to try something on his own.

For the OpenEJB, we keep our samples in svn also. We've recently taken up using the Confluence snippet plugin to create sort of hybrid wiki/svn documentation. Here is an example example document :)

  http://cwiki.apache.org/OPENEJB/embedded-and-remotable.html

Here's the wiki source for that doc:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpagesrc.action? pageId=33261

And here's some of the svn source for the doc:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openejb/trunk/openejb3/ examples/telephone-stateful/README.txt http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openejb/trunk/openejb3/ examples/telephone-stateful/src/test/java/org/apache/openejb/examples/ telephone/TelephoneTest.java

Notice the "//START SNIPPET" "//END SNIPPET" comments in that second svn link.

I'm not sure yet if this approach is the best possible confluence/svn combination, but it seems to be working out so far. I don't like the "//START SNIPPET" comments in the source, but I can't argue with the results.


-David


Johan

Achim Hügen wrote:
Btw: Apache projects can use a confluence wiki now for documentation
purposes.
The confluence support is not official yet but I requested a space and it's
online already: http://cwiki.apache.org/HIVEMIND2/
The wiki pages get published to a static site periodically.

IMHO the current way of documenting the different modules (core, lib,
xml, jmx, annotations)
leads to a very scattered documentation that lacks coherence and is
updated seldom.
I would suggest to reduce the documentation located inside the development
environment: HiveDoc, JavaDoc should be generated and published
automatically
to the hivemind site, but all kind of tutorials, cookbooks, examples
etc. should be edited in the wiki.

Some projects practice that approach already and the results are quite
impressive:

http://cwiki.apache.org/OPENEJB/
http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/

What's your opinion?

Achim


James Carman schrieb:
That's what I mean. If you want an example of how to use Spring with
Hibernate, you can find that very quickly.  Not so with HiveMind.
That's the kind of stuff we need. I thought about writing a HiveMind
Cookbook and having it published.


On 1/30/07, Paul Cooley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just out of curiousity, what kind of real-world examples did your team expect/need to see? Perhaps examples that demonstrate the different
service
models (threaded, pooled, singleton, etc) as well as how to use the
common
framework services (BeanFactory, ChainBuilder, PipelineFactory, etc)
would
be very beneficial in addition to demonstrating how to use Hivemind in
conjunction with common stacks (Torque, Hibernate, etc).


On 1/30/07, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All,

I recently had a discussion with our project team at work about
adopting HiveMind.  One of their biggest gripes was about our
documentation and examples or the lack thereof. I'd like to see if we can get some real-world examples out there that show the real power of
HiveMind and how simple it can make your life.  I've got some cool
Hibernate stuff that impresses people when they see it in action.
Since this stuff is based upon non-ASF licensed code, we'll have to
host it somewhere else (it's currently at JavaForge), but we can
always link to it from our site. Thoughts? We should definitely try
to HiveMind2.0ize it.

James




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