Daniel Lorch a écrit :

hi,

I'm not sure http-dev is the place to flam ASF and its commiters.


I don't think it was Peter's intention to flame anyone. The ASF has done a great job to deliver a fantastic, widely-deployed webserver. Consindering though that Apache 2 is mostly a refactored 1.3.x, which
doesn't provide anything spectacularly new. Yes improved X and better Y,
but hey, it still is a webserver and it doesn't make coffee for you.

Yes, HTTPD 2.0 is still a webserver but the refactory was impressive and it use APR which is a wonderfull API to hide Operating System specifics.

If I can get my name into the headlines [1] when writing Java-Stuff,
hell, then I'll do it.

Read "The Cathedral & The Bazaar" from ESR [2]. It provides a good
insight into the social structures of the "community": motivations,
incentives, .. It's not always the money, you know ;) Market share?
Who cares! Customers? Who cares! I want my name to be a three letter
acronym everyone recognizes! RMS? ESR?

[1] http://apache.slashdot.org/apache/03/11/10/2057218.shtml
    http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337

[2] http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cathbazpaper/

I know well 'The Cathedral & The Bazaar' and it's not allways money, but who speak about money here. I just speak about market shares, in term of users base. And when more than 66% of users trust your product you couldn't just make permanent revolution.

If you don't care about customers, in our case HTTPD users, I'm not
sure you understand that even if OSS is a software production model,
it's final goal is to produce real software, for real users, and
more users are using your software more responsability you have.

If someone want to produce software for its own use, without users
considerations, well it shouldn't works in communities and certainly not
with ASF commiters.





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