> Am 03.03.2021 um 10:44 schrieb Stefan Eissing <stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de>:
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 03.03.2021 um 10:31 schrieb Ruediger Pluem <rpl...@apache.org>:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/3/21 9:54 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote:
>>>> Am 03.03.2021 um 09:35 schrieb Stefan Eissing 
>>>> <stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 02.03.2021 um 20:54 schrieb Ruediger Pluem <rpl...@apache.org>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/2/21 3:21 PM, ic...@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>> Author: icing
>>>>>> Date: Tue Mar  2 14:21:18 2021
>>>>>> New Revision: 1887085
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1887085&view=rev
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>> Adding more ap_ssl_* functions and hooks to the core server.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  - ap_ssl_add_cert_files() to enable other modules like mod_md to provide
>>>>>>    certificate and keys for an SSL module like mod_ssl.
>>>>>>  - ap_ssl_add_fallback_cert_files() to enable other modules like mod_md 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>    provide a fallback certificate in case no 'proper' certificate is
>>>>>>    available for an SSL module like mod_ssl.
>>>>>>  - ap_ssl_answer_challenge() to enable other modules like mod_md to
>>>>>>    provide a certificate as used in the RFC 8555 'tls-alpn-01' challenge
>>>>>>    for the ACME protocol for an SSL module like mod_ssl.
>>>>>> - Hooks for 'ssl_add_cert_files', 'ssl_add_fallback_cert_files' and
>>>>>>   'ssl_answer_challenge' where modules like mod_md can provide providers
>>>>>>   to the above mentioned functions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>> httpd/httpd/trunk/CHANGES
>>>>>> httpd/httpd/trunk/include/ap_mmn.h
>>>>>> httpd/httpd/trunk/include/http_protocol.h
>>>>>> httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/md/mod_md.c
>>>>>> httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_init.c
>>>>>> httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_kernel.c
>>>>>> httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_private.h
>>>>>> httpd/httpd/trunk/server/protocol.c
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Modified: httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_kernel.c
>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_kernel.c?rev=1887085&r1=1887084&r2=1887085&view=diff
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_kernel.c (original)
>>>>>> +++ httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/ssl/ssl_engine_kernel.c Tue Mar  2 
>>>>>> 14:21:18 2021
>>>>>> @@ -2316,11 +2316,29 @@ void ssl_callback_Info(const SSL *ssl, i
>>>>>> #ifdef HAVE_TLSEXT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> static apr_status_t set_challenge_creds(conn_rec *c, const char 
>>>>>> *servername,
>>>>>> -                                        SSL *ssl, X509 *cert, EVP_PKEY 
>>>>>> *key)
>>>>>> +                                        SSL *ssl, X509 *cert, EVP_PKEY 
>>>>>> *key,
>>>>>> +                                        const char *cert_file, const 
>>>>>> char *key_file)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>  SSLConnRec *sslcon = myConnConfig(c);
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  sslcon->service_unavailable = 1;
>>>>>> +    if (cert_file) {
>>>>>> +        if (SSL_use_certificate_chain_file(ssl, cert_file) < 1) {
>>>>> 
>>>>> As noted by the failure of build #1461 (
>>>>> https://travis-ci.com/github/apache/httpd/jobs/487481449)
>>>>> SSL_use_certificate_chain_file is not available with OpenSSL 1.0.2 which 
>>>>> is still the OS
>>>>> provided standard version with Ubuntu 16 LTS and RedHat / Centos 7.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a known alternative?
>>> 
>>> Will use SSL_use_certificate_file() there which is available in 1.0.2.
>> 
>> Two questions:
>> 
>> 1. Do SSL_use_certificate_file and SSL_use_certificate_chain_file do the 
>> same thing? My understanding of the documentation is that
>>  SSL_use_certificate_chain_file loads a certificate chain (and just a chain) 
>> from the file while SSL_use_certificate_file loads
>>  just a certificate.
> 
> In my testing, they both do the same when the file contains only a 
> self-signed certificate. Which is the use case with ACME.
> 
> But you are correct, as the documentation says 
> "SSL_CTX_use_certificate_file() loads the first certificate stored in file 
> into ctx.". And "SSL_CTX_use_certificate_chain_file" loads a complete chain, 
> starting with the client/server certificate.#
> 
> So, ideally, we'd want to call SSL_use_certificate_chain_file(), because it 
> is more flexible. The ACME use case can live with the less potent call 
> available in 1.0.2. 
> 
> Maybe we should "#if version >= 1.1" and use the better one then?
> 
>> 
>> 2. Is it a good idea that consumers of the ssl_answer_challenge hook can 
>> only provide certs and keys via files? What if these are
>>  not stored in a file? Would it be an option to have the hook return a 
>> **void for the cert and a **void for the key in addition
>>  that can be NULL or that in the OpenSSL case contain a **X509 and 
>> **EVP_PKEY?
> 
> I was thinking about that. But imagine a scenario where a server has 2 SSL 
> modules loaded. What would the "void*" be for? How could a module given a 
> value in it know it's safe to use?
> 
> Besides PEM files, the only other portable way I can think of are DER bytes.
> 
> I opted for files, since those do exists in the mod_md ACME case already and 
> so it was easy to do. Not the best design criteria, but not the worst either.
> 
> - Stefan

Good that there is RĂ¼diger! 

Thinking about this: how much work would it be for mod_ssl to accept PEM bytes? 
That would make the exchange of certificate independent of the file system and 
portable.

typedef struct ap_bytes ap_bytes;
struct {
  const char *data;
  apr_size_t len;
} ap_bytes;

AP_DECLARE(int) ap_ssl_answer_challenge(conn_rec *c, const char *server_name, 
const ap_bytes **pcertificate_key_pem);


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