> So you mean, we keep the standard disclaimer? yes. its needed eventually anyway.. Our main goal in 0.5.2 to get the LICENSE/NOTICE in shape and get a +1 with the standard disclaimer.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 4:01 PM vino yang <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Vinoth, > > >>We may need to revert HUDI-676[3]: Address issues towards removing use of > WIP Disclaimer > >>I think we should address the feedback and ensure VOTE passed with "non > >>WIP" disclaimer.. the WIP disclaimer cannot be retained forever and needs > >>to be fixed before graduation IIUC. > > So you mean, we keep the standard disclaimer? Then we can discuss it when > we vote for rc2, if someone raises this issue again. WDYT? > > >>As you bundled several ASF projects that have NOTICE files, > >>Again, we are back to binary vs source releases.. the source releases we > >>make DO NOT bundle anything.. So we should not have to add anything to > >>NOTICE. The same link mentioned, also states, "dont include stuff > >>unnecessarily" (not a quote). Does maven jars count as binary > distribution > >>of software? I suggest we file a LEGAL issue, get it stamped by the right > >>folks and do that. This can be a good strategy, in addition to looking > at > >>other projects. > > So, the question remains how to look at the word "*bundle*". > > We have some weird statements in the LICENSE file, excerpted one of them as > follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > *--------------------------------------------------------------------------------This > product includes code from Apache Hive.* > org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.io.CombineHiveInputFormat copied to > org.apache.hudi.hadoop.hive.HoodieCombineHiveInputFormatCopyright: > 2011-2019 The Apache Software FoundationHome page: http://hive.apache.org/ > <http://hive.apache.org/>License: > http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 > <http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------* > > Regarding "*This product includes code from *", I don't seem to see this > pattern from other projects. > > So the question here is, even if we only publish the source code, is this > behavior considered as bundling other projects (because we do copy the > source code from other projects, the source code is obviously one of the > assets of other projects)? Unfortunately, I did not find a clear > clarification from the Apache official website. Obviously, there are two > possibilities here: > > > - This is a kind of bundle, but we are not clear or there is a deviation > in understanding; > - This is not a bundle, but there is a misunderstanding during voting, > and we have not clarified this; > > > In short, our LICENSE contains a relatively uncommon description "*This > product includes code from *". In this regard, the main problem here is the > information asymmetry between us and the IPMC. I don't think it makes much > sense to refer to other projects or interpret the official documents. A > more efficient way is to communicate directly with Justin and clarify. > Understand his thoughts and express our confusion. > > What do you think? > > Best, > Vino > > > Vinoth Chandar <[email protected]> 于2020年3月19日周四 上午12:05写道： > > > Thanks for the update, vino! > > > > here's the -1 vote feedback for everyone's context.. > > > > As you bundled several ASF projects that have NOTICE files, their NOTICE > > > files need to be examined and parts added to your NOTICE file. [1] > > > License is missing information fo this file copyright Twitter [3] > > > Perhaps you should consider using the work in progress disclaimer. [2] > > > Thanks, > > > Justin > > > 1. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#alv2-dep > > > 2. > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#work_in_progress_disclaimer > > > > > > > > >>We may need to revert HUDI-676[3]: Address issues towards removing use > of > > WIP Disclaimer > > I think we should address the feedback and ensure VOTE passed with "non > > WIP" disclaimer.. the WIP disclaimer cannot be retained forever and needs > > to be fixed before graduation IIUC. > > > > >>As you bundled several ASF projects that have NOTICE files, > > Again, we are back to binary vs source releases.. the source releases we > > make DO NOT bundle anything.. So we should not have to add anything to > > NOTICE. The same link mentioned, also states, "dont include stuff > > unnecessarily" (not a quote). Does maven jars count as binary > distribution > > of software? I suggest we file a LEGAL issue, get it stamped by the right > > folks and do that. This can be a good strategy, in addition to looking > at > > other projects. > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:27 AM vino yang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We encountered some issues while voting RC1 on general@[1], so we > > canceled > > > the vote for rc1. The blocker issues we are currently addressing are: > > > > > > * HUDI-720: NOTICE file needs to add more content based on the NOTICE > > files > > > of the ASF projects that hudi bundles(I have opened a PR[2] to fix it) > > > * We may need to revert HUDI-676[3]: Address issues towards removing > use > > of > > > WIP Disclaimer > > > > > > I will prepare 0.5.2 RC2 ASAP after fixing them. Please be patient. > > > > > > Best, > > > Vino > > > > > > [1]: > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/202003.mbox/%3C932F44A0-1CEE-4549-896B-70FB61EAA034%40classsoftware.com%3E > > > [2]: https://github.com/apache/incubator-hudi/pull/1417 > > > [3]: https://github.com/apache/incubator-hudi/pull/1386 > > > > > >
