Generally speaking, ObjectFactory is reponsible for instantiating
classes (including providing constructor parameters).  The
MetaClass/MetaObject library, including the ObjectWrapper abstraction
are reponsible for manipulating / mutating existing objects.

Both ObjectWrapper and ObjectFactory can be overridden.  Can you use a
combination of the two to do what you need?   There are examples of
both in the iBATIS source.

Also, you should be able to find the scala example/plug-in if you
search the mailing list archives.  I'll post it here when I'm at a
computer, if you haven't already found it.

Cheers,
Clinton

On 2010-02-24, Alexei Sokolov <alexei.soko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Clinton,
>
> Sorry, I did not mean to criticize the framework. I'm just wondering if I
> understand how you do things, and if the code can be improved upon.
>
> What I see so far is that I cannot separate object construction mechanism
> from the client view of the object. Think StringBuilder/String in java,
> ListBuffer/List in scala, and other similar classes. I want users of my
> classes to see String, List, etc., but I want ibatis to use StringBuilder
> (stringbuilder is not the real usecase, but just to show my point) and
> ListBuffer to construct them. It could be due to how I want users to see the
> data, or it could be due to the fact that I can construct the object more
> efficiently this way, or I want it to be immutable.
>
> If you'll say that such pattern is outside of ibatis scope, it is OK.
> However, I think this refactoring may benefit others, including scala
> users.
>
> Alex
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Clinton Begin
> <clinton.be...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> LOL... sorry I thought that was funny.  :-)
>>
>> But really, you're really polarizing this discussion with broad criticisms
>> of how our software is designed.  It's hard to comment on your needs or to
>> help you.
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do, but you're digging pretty
>> deep into the guts of the system, parts that weren't really intended for
>> other people to extend or change (or at the very least at your own risk).
>>
>> So it seems to me that if you have to dig that deep into the core of the
>> library, it's probably the wrong fit and you'll have an uphill battle and
>> a
>> poor experience overall.
>>
>> So rather than criticize our framework because it doesn't do what you need
>> it to, it might be best if you look for a better fit.  There are others.
>> Hibernate is one, and yes it's well designed.
>>
>> As for a friendly community, I can assure you that if you broadly
>> criticize
>> them because their square peg doesn't fit into the round hole, you'll
>> probably meet with a similar reaction.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Clinton
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Alexei Sokolov
>> <alexei.soko...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure what are you trying to say.
>>>
>>> That hibernate has friendly community? Or that they have a better
>>> designed
>>> library?
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Alex
>>> Sent from my mobile
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Clinton Begin <clinton.be...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Yes, iBATIS has a mechanism that allows you to do what you want to do.
>>> It's called Hibernate.
>>>
>>> <https://www.hibernate.org/>https://www.hibernate.org/
>>>
>>> Enjoy.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Alexei Sokolov
>>> <<alexei.soko...@gmail.com>
>>> alexei.soko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, Microsoft Office has Excel, which is a good spreadsheet. Does
>>>> ibatis has a mechanism that allows me to do what I want to do?
>>>>
>>>> If intented use for objectwrapper was scala, why didn't you call it
>>>> scalaobjectwrapper? Obviously you had other potential uses in mind.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, can you point me to some scala examples? Can ibatis map java lists
>>>> and maps to scala lists and maps?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -- Alex
>>>> Sent from my mobile
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Clinton Begin < <clinton.be...@gmail.com>
>>>> clinton.be...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What you're trying to do with ObjectWrapper is beyond its intended use.
>>>> It was never a consideration nor an intention for the ObjectWrapper to
>>>> instantiate objects.  ObjectWrapper was originally implemented to
>>>> support
>>>> Scala types, and perhaps to support a custom property naming convention
>>>> or
>>>> some other type (e.g. XML).
>>>>
>>>> It was not intended to change or intercept the result object lifecycle
>>>> or
>>>> override the result object entirely.
>>>>
>>>> You can call it a design problem if you like.  But it's kind of like
>>>> saying Microsoft Word has a design problem because it isn't a very good
>>>> spreadsheet.
>>>>
>>>> Clinton
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Alexei Sokolov
>>>> <<alexei.soko...@gmail.com><alexei.soko...@gmail.com>
>>>> alexei.soko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new here, but either I don't understand ibatis internals or you
>>>>> have
>>>>> a design problem. First, let me share my understanding of how ibatis
>>>>> handles
>>>>> mapping of result sets to beans:
>>>>>
>>>>> In *ResultSetHandler.getRowValue() method you create object instance
>>>>> using objectfactory. then you create metaobject for it, which in turn
>>>>> creates objectwrapper for that object instance. Then you use meta
>>>>> object
>>>>> methods to populate property values on that object instance. During
>>>>> this
>>>>> process both metaobject and objectwrapper essentially write values
>>>>> directly
>>>>> to the object instance returned from object factory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, consider this scenario: let's say my object wrapper constructs
>>>>> intermediate object first and populates its values. Than when I'm done
>>>>> processing a row, I want to create actual object instance that will be
>>>>> returned to the client. How do I do this with the current
>>>>> implementation?
>>>>> Ideally, it will be nice if ObjectWrapper had a method, say
>>>>> 'getPopulatedInstance()' and then line 179 in
>>>>> FastResultSetHandler.getRowValue() (and other such places) could be
>>>>> rewritten like
>>>>>
>>>>> resultObject = foundValues ?
>>>>> metaObject.getObjectWrapper().getPopulatedInstance() : null;
>>>>>
>>>>> instead of
>>>>>
>>>>> resultObject = foundValues ? resultObject : null;
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, it would be nice if objectwrapper is able to create new
>>>>> instances in addition to being able to work as decorator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it make sense at all?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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