Hi all, Love that we're opening discussion around making meetups more accessible!
I do think it would be in everyone's best interest to outline some guidelines around what *we* believe is a good meetup and post them on the community section of the site <https://iceberg.apache.org/community/#iceberg-community-events>. Here are a few rules of engagement that would be helpful for guiding hosts/organizers: 1. Apache Iceberg should be championed in every meetup *and* technical session (after all, we're here to support this technology and our community) 2. All talks should be vendor-neutral and not sales pitches (of course vendors can be mentioned, but that should never be the point of the talk) 3. Each meetup should have *at least* two talks with speakers representing different companies/organizations (we need to champion diversity of thought) 4. Planned meetups ought to be brought to the attention of the dev list (this is to promote transparency and raise awareness) Looking forward to discussing this more, Danica On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 3:30 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the proposal Russell! JB also raised some fair points > regarding use of trademarks. > > We can adjust the proposal slightly to include the use of trademarks: > > """ > The Apache Iceberg community supports Apache Iceberg meetups. The name > "Apache Iceberg Meetup <geographical location>" may be used in > compliance with > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html#approval. No > explicit PMC approval is required. > """ > > -Max > > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 6:42 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > wrote: > > > > Hi Ryan > > > > I just wanted to remind what should be done for meetups (a kind of > context), especially: > > > > "The VP, Brand Management, or the VP of the relevant Apache project, > must approve the use of Apache marks in any events run by third parties. > This includes conferences, meetups, get-togethers, and any other types of > events. Events must comply with this policy and have permission to use > Apache marks in the name of the event or in any of the primary branding, > including website domain names, for the event. > > > > Event branding and event organizers may not claim to be the organizers > or sole or exclusive leaders of any Apache project, nor claim to be the > sole, exclusive, or primary source of information for any Apache project." > > > > So, I think "lazy" approval should be fine, but I'm a bit "surprised" by > "PMC out of the meetup approval business" because: > > 1. It's not necessary the PMC, it's VP Brand or VP of the project > > 2. We have to be sure about the trademark use approval > > > > I wanted to emphasize that because, at foundation level, we highly care > about our marks. > > > > Thanks, > > Regards > > JB > > > > Le mar. 27 mai 2025 à 17:52, Ryan Blue <rdb...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> > >> JB, can you give us a bit more context about why you're recommending > those pages? Do they have policies that already do what is being suggested? > Do they impose limits that mean we could not do this? Without that > information, I'm not sure what I'm looking for in those docs. > >> > >> On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 9:15 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Russell > >>> > >>> I would suggest to take a look on: > >>> > >>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html > >>> > >>> And > >>> > >>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#events > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> JB > >>> > >>> Le ven. 23 mai 2025 à 21:24, Russell Spitzer < > russell.spit...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >>>> > >>>> Hey Y'all > >>>> > >>>> I know there has been a lot of confusion over who is allowed to host a > >>>> meetup and what it can be called. Technically, I believe the PMC is > supposed > >>>> to be involved in anything involving the Apache Iceberg trademark but > I'd like > >>>> to pre-approve a bunch of meetups if we have consensus. > >>>> > >>>> Basically I would like to get the PMC out of the meetup approval > business as > >>>> I think this is an unnecessarily high threshold for new meetups and > may be > >>>> biasing meetups towards locations where folks have connections to the > PMC. If > >>>> we do notice that a meetup group has issues we can always deal with > it at that > >>>> time. > >>>> > >>>> Proposal: > >>>> The Apache Iceberg community allows any meetups to use Apache Iceberg > in their > >>>> meetup name in the format Apache Iceberg Meetup ***Some Geographic > Location***. No > >>>> other approval is required and PMC involvement is not required, but > assistance will be > >>>> gladly offered if asked. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Please let me know what you think, > >>>> Russ >
