Thanks Max and Danica, I have no problems adjusting the verbage or adding some best practices.
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 2:52 PM Danica Fine <danica.f...@snowflake.com.invalid> wrote: > Hi all, > > Love that we're opening discussion around making meetups more accessible! > > I do think it would be in everyone's best interest to outline some > guidelines around what *we* believe is a good meetup and post them on the > community section of the site > <https://iceberg.apache.org/community/#iceberg-community-events>. Here > are a few rules of engagement that would be helpful for guiding > hosts/organizers: > > 1. Apache Iceberg should be championed in every meetup *and* technical > session (after all, we're here to support this technology and our > community) > 2. All talks should be vendor-neutral and not sales pitches (of course > vendors can be mentioned, but that should never be the point of the talk) > 3. Each meetup should have *at least* two talks with speakers > representing different companies/organizations (we need to champion > diversity of thought) > 4. Planned meetups ought to be brought to the attention of the dev > list (this is to promote transparency and raise awareness) > > Looking forward to discussing this more, > Danica > > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 3:30 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the proposal Russell! JB also raised some fair points >> regarding use of trademarks. >> >> We can adjust the proposal slightly to include the use of trademarks: >> >> """ >> The Apache Iceberg community supports Apache Iceberg meetups. The name >> "Apache Iceberg Meetup <geographical location>" may be used in >> compliance with >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html#approval. No >> explicit PMC approval is required. >> """ >> >> -Max >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 6:42 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Ryan >> > >> > I just wanted to remind what should be done for meetups (a kind of >> context), especially: >> > >> > "The VP, Brand Management, or the VP of the relevant Apache project, >> must approve the use of Apache marks in any events run by third parties. >> This includes conferences, meetups, get-togethers, and any other types of >> events. Events must comply with this policy and have permission to use >> Apache marks in the name of the event or in any of the primary branding, >> including website domain names, for the event. >> > >> > Event branding and event organizers may not claim to be the organizers >> or sole or exclusive leaders of any Apache project, nor claim to be the >> sole, exclusive, or primary source of information for any Apache project." >> > >> > So, I think "lazy" approval should be fine, but I'm a bit "surprised" >> by "PMC out of the meetup approval business" because: >> > 1. It's not necessary the PMC, it's VP Brand or VP of the project >> > 2. We have to be sure about the trademark use approval >> > >> > I wanted to emphasize that because, at foundation level, we highly care >> about our marks. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Regards >> > JB >> > >> > Le mar. 27 mai 2025 à 17:52, Ryan Blue <rdb...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >> >> >> JB, can you give us a bit more context about why you're recommending >> those pages? Do they have policies that already do what is being suggested? >> Do they impose limits that mean we could not do this? Without that >> information, I'm not sure what I'm looking for in those docs. >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 9:15 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi Russell >> >>> >> >>> I would suggest to take a look on: >> >>> >> >>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html >> >>> >> >>> And >> >>> >> >>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#events >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Regards >> >>> JB >> >>> >> >>> Le ven. 23 mai 2025 à 21:24, Russell Spitzer < >> russell.spit...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >>>> >> >>>> Hey Y'all >> >>>> >> >>>> I know there has been a lot of confusion over who is allowed to host >> a >> >>>> meetup and what it can be called. Technically, I believe the PMC is >> supposed >> >>>> to be involved in anything involving the Apache Iceberg trademark >> but I'd like >> >>>> to pre-approve a bunch of meetups if we have consensus. >> >>>> >> >>>> Basically I would like to get the PMC out of the meetup approval >> business as >> >>>> I think this is an unnecessarily high threshold for new meetups and >> may be >> >>>> biasing meetups towards locations where folks have connections to >> the PMC. If >> >>>> we do notice that a meetup group has issues we can always deal with >> it at that >> >>>> time. >> >>>> >> >>>> Proposal: >> >>>> The Apache Iceberg community allows any meetups to use Apache >> Iceberg in their >> >>>> meetup name in the format Apache Iceberg Meetup ***Some Geographic >> Location***. No >> >>>> other approval is required and PMC involvement is not required, but >> assistance will be >> >>>> gladly offered if asked. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Please let me know what you think, >> >>>> Russ >> >
