I agree with Russell here. The goal is to clarify how to run a meetup that
meets our requirements, rather than approving them individually. I like
Max's addition to make anyone starting one aware of the brand guidelines.

I also like Danica's suggestions so that we state that we expect meetups to
generally be neutral.

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 8:28 AM Russell Spitzer <russell.spit...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> We definitely should not abdicate our responsibilities to the trade mark,
> I just want to shift away from a pre-clearance model which we have done so
> far. I know I
> always try to help folks out if I see something which I think may be
> inappropriate
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 7:50 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 2025/05/23 19:24:28 Russell Spitzer wrote:
>> > Hey Y'all
>> >
>> > Basically I would like to get the PMC out of the meetup approval
>> business
>> ...
>> > Please let me know what you think,
>>
>> (Board hat)
>>
>> A critical role of a PMC is being stewards of the project's brands/marks.
>> So while it's not necessary that the PMC micromanage each individual
>> meetup, it is important that they are *aware* of them, and are doing due
>> dilligence to ensure that those brands are being used appropriately.
>>
>> I don't think that necessarily means that there is an approval vote for
>> each one. That is, indeed, too much micromanagement. But I would encurage
>> project members (whether PMC or not) who attend these events to be aware of
>> the brand policy, and point out to meetup organizers when they're being
>> violated (which I would expect to be very infrequent!).
>>
>> That is to say, +1 in general to your proposal here, with the
>> understanding that the project as a whole owns the project's brands, and
>> should be diligent about ensuring that they are not abused.
>>
>

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