+1 (binding)

Thanks Huaxin for driving the discussion and thanks everyone for
contributing.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 11:18 AM Xin Huang via dev <[email protected]>
wrote:

> +1 (non-binding)
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 11:13 AM Russell Spitzer <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> +1 (binding)
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 1:07 PM Hongyue Zhang <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>>
>>> Thanks Huaxin!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 11:03 Gianluca Graziadei <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 (non-binding )
>>>>
>>>> The asymmetric cost argument is the decisive factor for me.
>>>>
>>>> An equality delete allows the writer to offload work onto every
>>>> subsequent read, and this deferred cost is neither bounded nor visible to
>>>> the party that generated it. Deletion vectors make that cost explicit and
>>>> ensure it is paid only once.
>>>>
>>>> I would also like to highlight point 3, which I think is underrated:
>>>> making the upgrade metadata-only decouples V4 adoption from delete file
>>>> migration. Users can move to V4 on their own timeline and convert equality
>>>> deletes as a background maintenance task. Coupling the two would have
>>>> turned V4 adoption into a weeks-long operational project for large tables.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Gianluca
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno gio 13 ago 2026 alle ore 19:57 Neelesh Salian <
>>>> [email protected]> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 (non binding) Thank you Huaxin.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 19:07 huaxin gao <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following the discussion thread "[DISCUSS] Deprecate Equality Deletes
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Iceberg V4" [1], I'd like to call a vote on the following proposal
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> V4 table spec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Proposal
>>>>>> --------
>>>>>> 1. Writing new equality deletes is forbidden for V4 tables: the V4
>>>>>> metadata
>>>>>>    will not define equality deletes as an allowed entry type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Reading equality deletes remains supported in the reference
>>>>>>    implementation for backward compatibility, both for existing V2/V3
>>>>>>    tables and for equality deletes carried over into upgraded V4
>>>>>> tables.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Upgrading a V2/V3 table to V4 is metadata-only (no synchronous
>>>>>> rewrite
>>>>>>    of data or delete files). Existing equality deletes remain in
>>>>>> carried-
>>>>>>    over V2/V3 delete manifests; converting them to deletion vectors
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>    separate, optional maintenance action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rationale
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Equality deletes impose an asymmetric cost paid on every read,
>>>>>> complicate
>>>>>> the format, and block features such as CDC, row lineage, and
>>>>>> incremental
>>>>>> index/materialized-view maintenance. Deletion vectors make deletion a
>>>>>> flat,
>>>>>> one-time cost, and the Flink ConvertEqualityDeletes work demonstrates
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> viable replacement path, so we do not need the full replacement
>>>>>> completed
>>>>>> before forbidding new equality deletes in V4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ ] +1 Forbid writing equality deletes in V4
>>>>>> [ ] +0
>>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not forbid (please explain)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/ks01jpv40qjlvz4yop5tlqv4x5oxbwy6
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/ks01jpv40qjlvz4yop5tlqv4x5oxbwy6__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!vsYT4Z_ihSMhUpgRXcXgEUbArKyPoG3WKwSCXmmMtC_0Tg3ICMgaSOoq7WzaKsMaK4-c_vXUCsbXEVhdw7RV0di7e8S-yLUE$>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Huaxin
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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