Vladimir, I doubt it will be possible to add any meaningful guarantees to ATOMIC caches with MVCC. Consider a case when a user does a putAll, not a single put. In this case, updates received by multiple primary nodes are not connected in any way. Moreover, whenever a primary node fails, the put for failed keys will be re-tried, which will lead to all sorts of overlapping updates in case of parallel putAll. It is hard to suggest how we should handle this, let alone explain this to a user.
-- AG 2017-09-18 14:50 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>: > Yakov, > > I would say that my example is not about adding transactions to ATOMIC > cache, but rather about adding consistent snapshots to it. > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Yakov Zhdanov <yzhda...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Vladimir, I think we can ask user to switch to transactional cache to > > support your example. Otherwise, it seems we are turning atomic caches to > > tx implicitly. > > > > --Yakov > > > > 2017-09-18 13:49 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>: > > > > > Semen, > > > > > > Consider use case of some audit table where I log user actions over > time. > > > Every actions is a put to ATOMIC cache. User interacts with my > > application, > > > and performs the following set of actions: > > > 1. 08:00 MSK -> LOGIN > > > 2. 08:10 MSK -> Update something > > > 3. 08:20 MSK -> LOGUT > > > > > > If MVCC is there, whenever I query all actions performed by the user, I > > > would see either {}, {1}, {1, 2} or {1, 2, 3} > > > Without MVCC I can see weird things, such as {1, 3} or {2}, or > > whatsoever. > > > > > > Vladimir. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Semyon Boikov <sboi...@gridgain.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Guys, > > > > > > > > I do not really understand mvcc for atomic cache, could you please > > > provide > > > > some real use case. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Yakov Zhdanov <yzhda...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ouch... of course it makes sense for atomic caches. Seems I am not > > > fully > > > > > switched on after weekend =) > > > > > > > > > > Agree on other points. > > > > > > > > > > --Yakov > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >