Nikolay, please try on more time.

--
Denis

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hello, Denis.
>
> Did you give me the permissions?
> Seems, I still can't create IEP on the IGNITE Wiki.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Active+Proposals
>
> В Вт, 06/03/2018 в 08:55 +0300, Nikolay Izhikov пишет:
> > Thank you, it's - nizhikov
> >
> > В Пн, 05/03/2018 в 15:09 -0800, Denis Magda пишет:
> > > Nikolay, what's your Wiki ID? I'll grant you required permissions.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Denis
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > Hello, Denis.
> > > >
> > > > > I would encourage you creating an IEP
> > > >
> > > > That is exactly what we want to do :)
> > > >
> > > > But seems I have not sufficient privileges to do it on Ignite wiki.
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Active+Proposals
> > > >
> > > > Can you or someone give me such rights?
> > > >
> > > > В Чт, 01/03/2018 в 22:23 -0800, Denis Magda пишет:
> > > > > Dmitriy R., Nilokay,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the analysis and handout of the architectural design.
> No doubts,
> > > > > it would be a valuable addition to Ignite.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would encourage you creating an IEP on the wiki and break the
> work into
> > > > > pieces discussing specific part with the community.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Denis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Nikolay Izhikov <
> nizhi...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello, Dmitriy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for feedback!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Will it be supported?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TDE shouldn't broke any of existing Ignite features.
> > > > > > It adds some encrypt/decrypt level when we writing and reading
> pages
> > > > > > in/from PDS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > В Пт, 02/03/2018 в 07:29 +0300, Dmitriy Setrakyan пишет:
> > > > > > > I have looked at the design, but could not find anything about
> running
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SQL
> > > > > > > queries against the encrypted data. Will it be supported?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > D.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Nikolay Izhikov <
> nizhi...@apache.org>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hell, Dima!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you for document!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm ready to implement this feature with you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Igniters, please, share you thoughts about proposed design
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1] https://1drv.ms/w/s!AqZdfua4UpmuhneoVhOCiXSUBGIf
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > В Чт, 01/03/2018 в 15:46 +0300, Дмитрий Рябов пишет:
> > > > > > > > > Hello, Igniters!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I investigated the issue and wrote some details in a draft
> document
> > > > > > > > > [1]. I think we should made IEP for TDE because it is a
> big change
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > should be described in a single place, but not in a message
> > > > > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > > > > > Please, look it and write your thoughts. What is not
> understandable,
> > > > > > > > > what should be detailed or described?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Where are we going to store keys (MEK) physically? Would
> it be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PKCS#11
> > > > > > > > > > storage? Where we will store passwords to unlock storage
> or it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > > > responibilty of user?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think we should provide interface for MEK storage to let
> users use
> > > > > > > > > storages they want. I suppose at the first step we should
> provide
> > > > > >
> > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > simple implementation, which will store MEK on every node
> and MEK
> > > > > >
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > be extracted by administrator during cluster activation
> process. Once
> > > > > > > > > MEK is extracted from key store, we decrypt CEKs and
> destroy open
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MEK,
> > > > > > > > > leaving open only cache keys.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think external storage is user's worry and we shouldn't
> give users
> > > > > > > > > built-in external storage like Oracle Wallet or Microsoft
> Azure Key
> > > > > > > > > Vault because it will increase Ignite's complexity too
> much.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And yes, we should to comply with the standards like
> PKCS#11.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One more thing is how "node gets MEK from coordinator",
> if we send
> > > > > > > > > > cleartext MEK, such security becomes useless also.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, that's why we should use secured connection. As I
> know, we have
> > > > > > > > > SSL implementation over JDK implementation, am I right?
> But we must
> > > > > > > > > ensure to use latest SSL/TLS version.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [1] https://1drv.ms/w/s!AqZdfua4UpmuhneoVhOCiXSUBGIf
>

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