Hi Xiangdong,

that's unfortunate, so I will probably continue to just skip jira emails.

However if discussions keep being done in Jira, then I should probably resign 
as a mentor as I am not willing to process these automated emails.

If the project likes the status quo, that's absolutely fine. After all ... all 
is happening on the list.

It's just that I am signed up to about 50 lists at apache and have to optimize 
how I process them if I don't want my contribution in the oss world to be just 
being up to date with all that's happening and not having any time left to 
contribute.

So I just filter out all emails that require an increased time to read and 
usually have a limited payload.
This usually relates totally escalating threads (posts coming in faster than I 
can read them) and generally all Jira emails except the PLC4X ones.


Chris




Am 10.03.20, 03:23 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <[email protected]>:

    Hi,
    
    The wish to changing the Jira title template is rejected [1].
    
    So, if we really want to change the template, we may have to:
     1. forward JIRA notifications to a single mailing list;
    2. A robot forwards the mails in the mailing list to dev@ and change the
    email title.
    
    [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
    
    Best,
    -----------------------------------
    Xiangdong Huang
    School of Software, Tsinghua University
    
     黄向东
    清华大学 软件学院
    
    
    Xin Wang <[email protected]> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午8:03写道:
    
    > Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work.
    >
    > - Xin
    >
    > Xiangdong Huang <[email protected]> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道:
    >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences.
    > >
    > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936
    > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935
    > >
    > > Best,
    > > -----------------------------------
    > > Xiangdong Huang
    > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
    > >
    > >  黄向东
    > > 清华大学 软件学院
    > >
    > >
    > > Xiangdong Huang <[email protected]> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道:
    > >
    > > > Hi all,
    > > >
    > > > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread:
    > > >
    > > > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and "commented" event
    > > > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and "Generic Event"
    > > event
    > > > notifications now).
    > > > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of the subject
    > of
    > > > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER)
    > > title"
    > > > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible according
    > to
    > > > [2].
    > > >
    > > > Both two changes require INFRA's help.
    > > > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to INFRA 
JIRA.
    > > >
    > > > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is another
    > > solution:
    > > > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a robot
    > subscribes
    > > > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends it to dev@
    > > > mailing list with a better title format.
    > > >
    > > > [1]
    > > >
    > >
    > 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications
    > > > [2]
    > > >
    > >
    > 
https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839
    > > >
    > > > Best,
    > > > -----------------------------------
    > > > Xiangdong Huang
    > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
    > > >
    > > >  黄向东
    > > > 清华大学 软件学院
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Christofer Dutz <[email protected]> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午7:54写道:
    > > >
    > > >> Hi folks,
    > > >>
    > > >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks like for me in
    > my
    > > >> inbox:
    > > >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j
    > > >>
    > > >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no information I can
    > get.
    > > >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content or not.
    > > >>
    > > >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as I am not
    > > >> willing
    > > >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are about.
    > > >>
    > > >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira emails
    > > >> drastically ...
    > > >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see more of the
    > title
    > > >> text,
    > > >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails better.
    > > >>
    > > >> Chris
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <[email protected]>:
    > > >>
    > > >>     +1
    > > >>
    > > >>     > 2020年3月6日 15:28,Julian Feinauer <[email protected]>
    > > 写道:
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     > +1 from me also!
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" <[email protected]>:
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >    Hi,
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >    +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >    I think this is a good thing because chair noticed our work.
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >    Maybe we should put more discussion into email and gradually
    > > >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >    Thanks
    > > >>     >    ---
    > > >>     >    Dawei Liu
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53,Xin Wang <[email protected]> 写道:
    > > >>     >>
    > > >>     >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and
    > > >> comment.
    > > >>     >>
    > > >>     >> - Xin
    > > >>     >>
    > > >>     >> Jialin Qiao <[email protected]> 于2020年3月6日周五
    > 上午9:12写道:
    > > >>     >>
    > > >>     >>> Hi,
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment.
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, linking 
PR,
    > > >> assigning
    > > >>     >>> issue...
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> Could we simplify the issue report format?
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> Like this:
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
    > > >>     >>> [
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>
    > >
    > 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173
    > > >>     >>> ]
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志:
    > > >>     >>> ----------------------------------------
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot
    > > >>     >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45
    > > >>     >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45
    > > >>     >>> 耗费时间: 10分
    > > >>     >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
    > > >> Support date
    > > >>     >>> format "2020-02-10"
    > > >>     >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>>
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------
    > > >>     >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git Service.
    > > >>     >>> To respond to the message, please log on to GitHub and use 
the
    > > >>     >>> URL above to go to the specific comment.
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> For queries about this service, please contact Infrastructure
    > > at:
    > > >>     >>> [email protected]
    > > >>     >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> The only useful information is only two lines:
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
    > > >>     >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: [IOTDB-498]
    > > >> Support date
    > > >>     >>> format "2020-02-10"
    > > >>     >>> URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878
    > > >>     >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<<
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> Thanks,
    > > >>     >>> --
    > > >>     >>> Jialin Qiao
    > > >>     >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>> 乔嘉林
    > > >>     >>> 清华大学 软件学院
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>>> -----原始邮件-----
    > > >>     >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <[email protected]>
    > > >>     >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五)
    > > >>     >>>> 收件人: [email protected]
    > > >>     >>>> 抄送:
    > > >>     >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA notification
    > > >>     >>>>
    > > >>     >>>> Hi all,
    > > >>     >>>>
    > > >>     >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email traffic generated
    > by
    > > >> jira
    > > >>     >>> (hard
    > > >>     >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to date while
    > > >> commuting)".
    > > >>     >>>>
    > > >>     >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on JIRA can be
    > > >> forwarded
    > > >>     >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is convenient. But 
indeed
    > > >> sometimes
    > > >>     >>> we
    > > >>     >>>> have too many JIRA notifications.
    > > >>     >>>>
    > > >>     >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like "closed event" 
of
    > > >> ISSUE to
    > > >>     >>>> reduce the notifications?
    > > >>     >>>>
    > > >>     >>>> [1]
    > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020
    > > >>     >>>>
    > > >>     >>>> Best,
    > > >>     >>>> -----------------------------------
    > > >>     >>>> Xiangdong Huang
    > > >>     >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
    > > >>     >>>>
    > > >>     >>>> 黄向东
    > > >>     >>>> 清华大学 软件学院
    > > >>     >>>
    > > >>     >>
    > > >>     >>
    > > >>     >> --
    > > >>     >> Thanks,
    > > >>     >> Xin
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >
    > > >>     >
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Thanks,
    > Xin
    >
    

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