Hi all, There are some details need to discuss. Then I will open a VOTE to decide whether we create a new mailing list or not.
If we forward JIRA notifications to a new mailing list, 1. Which kind of events need to be forwarded? - issue created - issue updated - issue assigned - issue resolved - issue closed - issue commented - issue comment edited - issue comment deleted - issue reopened - issue deleted - issue moved - Generic Event In my opinion, I'd like to open the following events: - issue created - issue assigned - issue resolved - issue commented - issue reopened Best, ----------------------------------- Xiangdong Huang School of Software, Tsinghua University 黄向东 清华大学 软件学院 Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月10日周二 下午9:14写道： > Sounds good to me :) > > Chris > > > Am 10.03.20, 09:30 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <saint...@gmail.com>: > > Hi Chris, > > When I applied to change the notifications [1], Chris Lambertus > pointed > out that we may need a new mailing list notifications@ to receives > JIRA > notification. > > I think it may help us to be out of stuck. > > If we have such a mailing list, then for those bug-fix issues, only > developers need to focus on that. > So, we recommend to let all current active developers subscribe to the > mailing list. > > For new requirement discussions, new feature discussions and the > roadmap > discussions, > even if they appear on the JIRA first, we can forward them manually to > dev@ > mailing list, to attract more users that may be interested in. > > How about the proposal? > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935 > > ----------------------------------- > Xiangdong Huang > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > 黄向东 > 清华大学 软件学院 > > > Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月10日周二 下午3:41写道： > > > Hi Xiangdong, > > > > that's unfortunate, so I will probably continue to just skip jira > emails. > > > > However if discussions keep being done in Jira, then I should > probably > > resign as a mentor as I am not willing to process these automated > emails. > > > > If the project likes the status quo, that's absolutely fine. After > all ... > > all is happening on the list. > > > > It's just that I am signed up to about 50 lists at apache and have to > > optimize how I process them if I don't want my contribution in the > oss > > world to be just being up to date with all that's happening and not > having > > any time left to contribute. > > > > So I just filter out all emails that require an increased time to > read and > > usually have a limited payload. > > This usually relates totally escalating threads (posts coming in > faster > > than I can read them) and generally all Jira emails except the PLC4X > ones. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > Am 10.03.20, 03:23 schrieb "Xiangdong Huang" <saint...@gmail.com>: > > > > Hi, > > > > The wish to changing the Jira title template is rejected [1]. > > > > So, if we really want to change the template, we may have to: > > 1. forward JIRA notifications to a single mailing list; > > 2. A robot forwards the mails in the mailing list to dev@ and > change > > the > > email title. > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936 > > > > Best, > > ----------------------------------- > > Xiangdong Huang > > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > > > 黄向东 > > 清华大学 软件学院 > > > > > > Xin Wang <data.xinw...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午8:03写道： > > > > > Nice, thanks Xiangdong for the great work. > > > > > > - Xin > > > > > > Xiangdong Huang <saint...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月7日周六 下午3:17写道： > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I created two tickets to INFRA to improve the experiences. > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19936 > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19935 > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > > Xiangdong Huang > > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > > > > > > > 黄向东 > > > > 清华大学 软件学院 > > > > > > > > > > > > Xiangdong Huang <saint...@gmail.com> 于2020年3月6日周五 下午9:35写道： > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I get two suggestions from this discussion thread: > > > > > > > > > > 1. To reduce the emails, only keep "created" and > "commented" > > event > > > > > notifications (According to [1], we have "closed" and > "Generic > > Event" > > > > event > > > > > notifications now). > > > > > 2. To make the title more readable, change the template of > the > > subject > > > of > > > > > the notification email, e.g., from "[JIRA][EVENT > > TYPE](IOTDB-NUMBER) > > > > title" > > > > > to "title [JIRA][EVENT TYPE](IoTDB-NUMBER)". It is possible > > according > > > to > > > > > [2]. > > > > > > > > > > Both two changes require INFRA's help. > > > > > If there is no dissenting opinion, I can create an issue to > > INFRA JIRA. > > > > > > > > > > If the INFRA can not change the title template, there is > another > > > > solution: > > > > > a. JIRA sends notifications to a new mailing list; b. a > robot > > > subscribes > > > > > the mailing list and once it receives a new mail, it sends > it to > > dev@ > > > > > mailing list with a better title format. > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/IOTDB/notifications > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Configure-Email-Subject/qaq-p/617839 > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > > > Xiangdong Huang > > > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University > > > > > > > > > > 黄向东 > > > > > 清华大学 软件学院 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 于2020年3月6日周五 > > 下午7:54写道： > > > > > > > > > >> Hi folks, > > > > >> > > > > >> here maybe an example how one of the Jira emails looks > like for > > me in > > > my > > > > >> inbox: > > > > >> https://ibb.co/WPJ5V9j > > > > >> > > > > >> As you can see, from the title there is almost no > information I > > can > > > get. > > > > >> So I can't see if I'm interested in reading the content > or not. > > > > >> > > > > >> Usually my process is to simply delete all Jira emails as > I am > > not > > > > >> willing > > > > >> to klick on every email in order to find out what they are > > about. > > > > >> > > > > >> It would be great if we could reduce the title of the jira > > emails > > > > >> drastically ... > > > > >> perhaps even change the order of stuff so I could see > more of > > the > > > title > > > > >> text, > > > > >> then perhaps it would make working with these emails > better. > > > > >> > > > > >> Chris > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Am 06.03.20, 08:42 schrieb "伍 雄" <langlige...@hotmail.com > >: > > > > >> > > > > >> +1 > > > > >> > > > > >> > 2020年3月6日 15:28，Julian Feinauer < > > j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> > > > > 写道： > > > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 from me also! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Am 06.03.20, 04:32 schrieb "Dawei Liu" < > atoi...@163.com>: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Hi， > > > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I think this is a good thing because chair > noticed our > > work. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Maybe we should put more discussion into email > and > > gradually > > > > >> reduce the distress caused by automatic generation > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks > > > > >> > --- > > > > >> > Dawei Liu > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >> 2020年3月6日 上午10:53，Xin Wang <data.xinw...@gmail.com> > 写道： > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> It's a real problem. +1 for only forwarding Jira > > creation and > > > > >> comment. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> - Xin > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Jialin Qiao <qj...@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> > 于2020年3月6日周五 > > > 上午9:12写道： > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> Hi, > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> +1 for only forwarding Jira creation and comment. > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Stopping forwarding operations like closing issue, > > linking PR, > > > > >> assigning > > > > >> >>> issue... > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Could we simplify the issue report format? > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Like this: > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > >> >>> [ > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IOTDB-498?focusedWorklogId=397173&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel#worklog-397173 > > > > >> >>> ] > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> ASF GitHub Bot 在 IOTDB-498中添加了工作日志: > > > > >> >>> ---------------------------------------- > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> 作者: ASF GitHub Bot > > > > >> >>> 创建于: 04/三月/20 01:45 > > > > >> >>> 开始日期: 04/三月/20 01:45 > > > > >> >>> 耗费时间: 10分 > > > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: > > [IOTDB-498] > > > > >> Support date > > > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10" > > > > >> >>> URL: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878 > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> >>> This is an automated message from the Apache Git > > Service. > > > > >> >>> To respond to the message, please log on to > GitHub and > > use the > > > > >> >>> URL above to go to the specific comment. > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> For queries about this service, please contact > > Infrastructure > > > > at: > > > > >> >>> us...@infra.apache.org > > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> The only useful information is only two lines: > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > >> >>> 工作说明: qiaojialin commented on pull request #878: > > [IOTDB-498] > > > > >> Support date > > > > >> >>> format "2020-02-10" > > > > >> >>> URL: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-iotdb/pull/878 > > > > >> >>> @++++++++++<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Thanks, > > > > >> >>> -- > > > > >> >>> Jialin Qiao > > > > >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> 乔嘉林 > > > > >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院 > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> -----原始邮件----- > > > > >> >>>> 发件人: "Xiangdong Huang" <saint...@gmail.com> > > > > >> >>>> 发送时间: 2020-03-06 08:46:02 (星期五) > > > > >> >>>> 收件人: dev@iotdb.apache.org > > > > >> >>>> 抄送: > > > > >> >>>> 主题: Balance the mailing list and JIRA > notification > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> Hi all, > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> In [1], Chirs pointed out that "most email > traffic > > generated > > > by > > > > >> jira > > > > >> >>> (hard > > > > >> >>>> to follow especially when trying to keep up to > date > > while > > > > >> commuting)". > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> How do you think? IMO, I think discussions on > JIRA can > > be > > > > >> forwarded > > > > >> >>>> directly to the mailing list, which is > convenient. But > > indeed > > > > >> sometimes > > > > >> >>> we > > > > >> >>>> have too many JIRA notifications. > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> Should we stop some JIRA notifications like > "closed > > event" of > > > > >> ISSUE to > > > > >> >>>> reduce the notifications? > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> [1] > > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/March2020 > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> Best, > > > > >> >>>> ----------------------------------- > > > > >> >>>> Xiangdong Huang > > > > >> >>>> School of Software, Tsinghua University > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> 黄向东 > > > > >> >>>> 清华大学 软件学院 > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> -- > > > > >> >> Thanks, > > > > >> >> Xin > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks, > > > Xin > > > > > > > > > > > >
