On Saturday, October 29, 2016, Philippe Mouawad <philippe.moua...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > Unless there is a nogo, I'll commit this evening the patch that on test > creation add a Thread Group and a View Results tree. > I hold on until release > > I think this eases a bit first experience. > > Regarding this thread, I still see unfortunately on stackoverflow and > twitter users running load test in gui mode and complaining about JMeter > not scaling. > > This I think is an issue for Jmeter reputation, it's unfair but ignoring > it is not a good idea I think. > > We discussed this in the past but didn't do anything yet: > - warning on start (i don't know if we discussed a threads threshold : 50 > threads) > - limit View Results tree and table size in memory (patch exists but no > agreement) > - Have a dedicated Load Testing page on Home Page ? which would mention > non gui mode, heap settings , os tuning ... > For now I added an output when gui is used to advise against using it for LT I also updated documentation with an Overview of Load testing in user manual. > > > I also wonder if we should not remove the default Xmx and Xms settings in > jmeter file. When using Java8 , default settings may be better as they > adapt to machine memory, but it can also be a problem... > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2016, Antonio Gomes Rodrigues <ra0...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ra0...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> About solution 3 (palette on the right), it's the solution adopted by >> Neoload (they have put it in the left) >> >> About Andrey idea, we have already templates. But it could be an >> interesting solution but, in my opinion, start with recording template is >> better. >> >> Antonio >> >> >> >> >> 2016-10-18 13:30 GMT+02:00 Philippe Mouawad <philippe.moua...@gmail.com>: >> >> > Hi Andrei, >> > I don't know if we should go that far, as if we have an HTTP Plan then >> > users might think they need to configure everything manually instead of >> > Recording. >> > Or should we go for a Recording template as a start ? >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Andrey Pokhilko <a...@ya.ru> wrote: >> > >> > > IMO JMeter should start with basic HTTP test plan in it, ready to >> give a >> > > try for newbies. Clear/New button should empty it to allow starting >> > > clean for those who want to customize things. >> > > >> > > Andrey Pokhilko >> > > >> > > On 10/18/2016 02:07 PM, Philippe Mouawad wrote: >> > > > Hello, >> > > > Thoughts on that ? >> > > > Thx >> > > > >> > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Philippe Mouawad < >> > > > philippe.moua...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Hello, >> > > >> I noticed that newbies are often lost at start when using jmeter >> and >> > > >> search how to add a sampler for example, or don't know where to >> find >> > > some >> > > >> particular component in tree menu. >> > > >> >> > > >> 1) >> > > >> I suggest that we add a Thread group by default to a new test >> plan. As >> > > >> long as a view results tree. >> > > >> Afaik, I always end up having those 2 elements. >> > > >> >> > > >> 2) >> > > >> In the future we should think about a way to simplify gui. >> > > >> >> > > >> I think we discussed this in the past but test profile seem to be >> > > useful: >> > > >> - expert : as today >> > > >> - http : keep only http protocol related elements + usual pre/post >> > > >> processors, listeners ... >> > > >> -jms same but for http >> > > >> -jdbc >> > > >> - java >> > > >> - ldap >> > > >> ... >> > > >> >> > > >> There would be a visible component (toolbar) to switch between >> > profiles. >> > > >> >> > > >> 3) >> > > >> Third idea(needs to be improved) add a palette on the right with a >> > > >> selectable number of components. >> > > >> Users could drag them on tree, this would avoid the unfolding of >> tree >> > > menu >> > > >> at different levels. >> > > >> >> > > >> Other ideas ? >> > > >> >> > > >> Thoughts ? >> > > >> >> > > >> Regards >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> -- >> > > >> Cordialement. >> > > >> Philippe Mouawad. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cordialement. >> > Philippe Mouawad. >> > >> > > > -- > Cordialement. > Philippe Mouawad. > > > > -- Cordialement. Philippe Mouawad.
