Again, why not use Retroweaver (http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/)
to backport a 1.4.2 compliant JRuby as well while coding in Java 1.5?
Still, I can't tell how well retroweaver works, I never used it.
BTW I'm also in favor of java 1.5. in the company I'm working I see
more and more java CMS that can't run anymore in Java 1.4 and I would
say roughly only 20% of our customers are sticked with java 1.4.2, and
I don't doubt they'll change their mind under the increasing pressure
for 1.5. The company I'm working in (Smile.fr) is arguably an Open
Source leader in France and I can't see any customer asking for using
an OpenJdk, so I mean I doubt the clash with OpenJDK 1.5 is
significant, while it could be soved in a matter of a few months,
couldn't it?
Still, this is not a significant point of view, you guys from jRuby
know better what to do; thanks for all your work again.
Raphaël Valyi.
On 7/24/07, Charles Oliver Nutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ola Bini wrote:
> I am against such a move. I would love to have some of the features in
> Java 5, but the fact of it is that most "enterprises" are still on 1.4.
> I believe JRuby is very important especially in the areas where
> conservative values reign, and moving to Java 5 will totally destroy
> that advantage.
The concern I have here is that other implementations are not hindered
by a platform version as much as we are, and it's starting to cause us a
bit of pain. For example, IronRuby is based on C# 2.0, and they're able
to use many features we can't like annotations.
Also, as I pointed out, JRuby 1.0 would continue to support Java 1.4.
The fact is that it requires a fair bit of effort and pain on our part
to continue using Java 1.4 going forward, and that's rather not in the
spirit of open source. If people want to continue supporting Java 1.4,
they can put in the effort themselves.
- Charlie
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