Wes Nakamura wrote:
| Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
| > Before we released 1.0, we discussed the possibility of making future
| > releases of JRuby based on Java 5 instead of Java 1.4.2. I think it's
| > time to raise that question again.

Just another quick note: although I wasn't able to get jruby working
exactly right with gcj (and didn't have time to investigate further),
it's something I've been interested in.  It looks like there will be
changes (using the eclipse compiler) so gcj 4.3 will support java 1.5,
but it looks like that will be awhile.
This isn't a vote for staying at 1.4 (I use both 1.5 and 1.6 at work),
but it is something that crossed my mind.

(Note this isn't directed at Wes, but at general concerns about moving away from Java 1.4)

It's hard for me to feel those concerns when there's multiple free Java 5 implementations for Linux (the typical place people are running GCJ), Sun's Java 6 version is available under very flexible distribution licenses, and there's practically nothing but politics keeping people from using Sun's Java 5 anyway. And like I mentioned before, JRuby 1.0 would still support Java 1.4; but allowing the pace of other OSS Java projects (projects we don't test against or run ourselves) to hinder our development process or make *my* job harder doesn't seem very true to the bazaar. If there are people out there really concerned about running on Java 1.4 on GCJ or another Java 1.4 implementation, I'm all for them stepping up and offering to maintain a compatible version of JRuby. But everyone I know that contributes to the project is using Java 5 or higher, and contribution is what earns you a vote.

- Charlie

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