Since Micah already purchased and built an installer...maybe we just
point people to both of them? I think Install4J is more focused on
Windows, is that correct?

Both options sound really great...so I don't know how to choose which
one to make the "official" installer.

My key points would be:

1. cross-platform install and *build*, so we don't need a Windows box
to build the Windows installer, etc
2. options to fetch or bundle a JVM, or to select existing JVMs
3. "we" on the JRuby team can build installers at will, like when
we're about to release
4. ideally, automated as much as possible, like part of the jruby
"dist" ant target or a new "dist-installers" target

Thanks to everyone for looking into this. What do you guys think we should do?

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Daniel Lopez<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Stephen, everybody
>
>> Do you have any (or know of any) open examples of a scripts for creating and
>> easily maintaining a JRubyStack-type of deployment.
>
> We can share the JRubyStack XML project files, but since you are
> interested just in JRuby and that is relatively straightforward, they
> will not really help as the real complexity is in the additional
> components of the stack.
>
> Some comments below regarding your notes.
>
>> http://svn.concord.org/svn/projects/trunk/common/java/deploy/bitrock-installers
>>
>> and is being documented in a series of confluence pages here:
>>
>>  http://confluence.concord.org/display/CSP/Java+Installable+Launcher
>
>
> General BitRock Questions
>
> 1. try setting an environment variable (is a reboot needed before that
> variable is visible?)
>  * Usually reboot is not required. A message is broadcasted that the
> environment changed on Windows, if that is what you mean. Also, are
> you referring to system or user-level environment variables?
>
>
> 2. See if bitrock can support signing files
>
> Yes we do. You will need to use MS code-signing tools. You can drive
> them from IB in a <postInstallationActionList>
>
> http://support.bitrock.com/article/i-get-an-unkown-publisher-warning-popup-on-windows
>
>
> 3. See if bitrock can support online installers that are small and
> then download just the files that are needed.
>
> We do not (yet) have direct support. Though with some shortcomings,
> you can build your own in the mean time using httpGet, we will be
> happy to help you with that.
>
> Mac
>
> 1. Support for creating Mac packages
>
> We can create .deb and .rpm for Linux, but is not possible to create
> .pkg OS X packages (only regular .app installer that you can launch)
>
> Java
>
> 1. It has actions for finding the java executable, but it doesn't find
> the java.home just the executable.
>
> You can just use the parent directory of the binary as the JAVA_HOME.
> The problem is that in some scenarios a Java binary is available but
> no JAVA_HOME is defined, you can only guess it. Regarding this and the
> issues you raise of environment vs.  java.properties in JAVA_HOME, why
> not simply define the variables you need in a wrapper script or
> launcher for your application?
>
> 2. Common data folder across distributions
>
> We have now implemented in 6.2.0 ability to filter Windows XP, based
> on your feedback. We will also implement installer variables for
> finding out the location of data folder across operating systems (and
> simplifying your current installer logic)
>
> Please let me know if there is any question I did not address
>
> Best regards
>
> Daniel
>
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