hi David I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported public API in KRaft mode.
Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is necessary? thanks, Chia-Ping On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > Hi folks, > > Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big chunks of your KIPs > must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the release branch on > Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, please reachout > to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the KIPs which are > not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > > Alyssa/Colin: > Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me that > https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large change for after > the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have a way back in > case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > > Andrew/Divij: > Thanks! > > Luke: > Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait for Ismael. > > Best, > David > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > > > Hey David and folks, > > > > > > I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 (PreVote) in > > two > > > phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > > > Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote RPC includes > > > PreVote field) by feature freeze > > > Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new internal > > Prospective > > > QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > > > > > Best, > > > Alyssa > > > > > > > +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > > > andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi David, > > >> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method deprecation > > >> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Andrew > > >> ________________________________________ > > >> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > >> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > > >> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > > >> > > >> Hey David > > >> > > >> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now accepted > > and I > > >> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > > >> > > >> [1] > > >> > > >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Divij Vaidya > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi <kiting...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hello David, > > >> > > > >> > I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to Log4j2. > > >> > This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now almost ready. > > >> > I’m currently working on it. > > >> > > > >> > Best regards, > > >> > TengYao > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 週二 下午4:23寫道： > > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, Luke! > > >> > > > > >> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hi David, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks for checking the KIPs. > > >> > > > I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above into the > > release > > >> > > plan, > > >> > > > and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks. > > >> > > > Luke > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > > david.ja...@gmail.com> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hi all, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I just checked the release plan and it does not contain any > > >> > > > > non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs too. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Best, > > >> > > > > David > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > > david.ja...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi PoAn/Ziming, > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Best, > > >> > > > > > David > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > > >> > > dengziming1...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi David & Luke, > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 to the > > >> release > > >> > > > plan > > >> > > > > which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after postpone doing > > it > > >> we > > >> > > can > > >> > > > > directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from ConfgCommand to > > avoid > > >> > > making > > >> > > > > our code dirty. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --, > > >> > > > > > > Ziming > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > > >> > > <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi all, > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze deadline > > is > > >> > > today. > > >> > > > > As we > > >> > > > > > > > have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I will wait > > >> until > > >> > > > > Monday to > > >> > > > > > > > compile the final list. Please update the status of your > > >> KIPs. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec 11th. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, > > >> > > > > > > > David > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, > > >> > > > > > > > David > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > > >> > > dja...@confluent.io> > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hi Divij, > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> I think that we can make a small exception for KIP-1030 > > but > > >> we > > >> > > > > cannot wait > > >> > > > > > > >> too long. How long do you need to close it? Ideally, we > > >> should > > >> > > aim > > >> > > > > for > > >> > > > > > > >> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot do it, we > > may > > >> > > have > > >> > > > to > > >> > > > > > > >> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> BR, > > >> > > > > > > >> David > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > > >> show...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >>> Hi Tina, > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > >>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > >>> Thanks. > > >> > > > > > > >>> Luke > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa Selenge < > > >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Hi David, > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has now > > passed > > >> the > > >> > > > > voting so > > >> > > > > > > >>> it > > >> > > > > > > >>>> does not need an exceptional extension anymore. Can we > > >> > please > > >> > > > > include > > >> > > > > > > >>> it in > > >> > > > > > > >>>> the release plan? > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Thank you. > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Tina > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa Selenge < > > >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional extension for > > >> > > KIP-1073 > > >> > > > > [1] > > >> > > > > > > >>> which > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via AdminClient. This is > > >> > > > > particularly > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, because > > >> > brokers > > >> > > > > need to > > >> > > > > > > >>> be > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no way to > > list > > >> > the > > >> > > > > brokers > > >> > > > > > > >>> in > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> order to unregister once they are shut down/fenced. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a month and > > >> has > > >> > > > > currently 2 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also have > > raised a > > >> > > draft > > >> > > > > PR for > > >> > > > > > > >>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> implementation [3]. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 and the > > >> > > > > implementation is > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> ready for review, it would be great to include it in > > >> 4.0.0. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [1] > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [2] > > >> > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Regards, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Tina > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > > >> > > show...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Divij, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 to make > > the > > >> > kafka > > >> > > > > default > > >> > > > > > > >>>> value > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until v5.0.0. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io> > > ? > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Luke > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij Vaidya < > > >> > > > > > > >>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hey David > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional extension for > > >> > KIP-1030 > > >> > > > [1] > > >> > > > > > > >>> which > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> aims > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add some new > > >> > > constraints > > >> > > > > for > > >> > > > > > > >>> our > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward incompatible > > >> > > changes, > > >> > > > > if > > >> > > > > > > >>> they > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> don't > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could release them > > would > > >> > be > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > > next > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> major > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> version. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last minute very > > >> > close > > >> > > to > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of Kafka > > >> > maintenance > > >> > > > > this KIP > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> could > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP for 4.0 > > even > > >> > > after > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David Jacot > > >> > > > > > > >>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze is > > on > > >> > 20th > > >> > > > > > > >>> November > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2024, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> one week from today. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen < > > >> > > show...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > > Chandraprakash > > >> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to the > > release > > >> > > plan. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open a voting > > >> thread > > >> > > > soon. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kamal > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke Chen < > > >> > > > show...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release plan. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa Huang > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release manager for > > >> 4.0! > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> does > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) listed, can I > > edit > > >> > the > > >> > > > > > > >>> page > > >> > > > > > > >>>> to > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> add > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it? > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM Colin McCabe < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 is. > > November > > >> > > 20th. > > >> > > > > > > >>> So > > >> > > > > > > >>>> if > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> has > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should make it into > > 4.0 > > >> > > > > > > >>> without > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> any > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> further > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is ready by > > feature > > >> > > > > > > >>> freeze.) > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, TengYao Chi > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the inclusion of > > >> KIP-1092 > > >> > in > > >> > > > > > > >>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> release > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I believe it > > >> will > > >> > > > > > > >>> bring > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> valuable > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer and Kafka > > >> > Streams > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> components. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this addition. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 於 > > 2024年10月11日 > > >> > 週五 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道： > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe there's a JIRA > > >> for > > >> > > > > > > >>> that > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> specifically > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, David Jacot > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does it include > > >> > > > > > > >>> removing > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. kafka-configs)? > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM Colin > > McCabe < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal tasks. > > >> > Progress > > >> > > > > > > >>>> has > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> been > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> pretty > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by January. > > (Well > > >> > > > > > > >>>> hopefully > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> even > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> earlier > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David > > Jacot > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think that we > > should > > >> > > > > > > >>> try to > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stick > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we should ensure > > that > > >> > ZK > > >> > > > > > > >>>> and > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> all > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> related > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code > > freeze. > > >> > The > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> simplest > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> way > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> would > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal with all the > > >> > > > > > > >>> related > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> tasks. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> We > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> can > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may already > > have > > >> > > > > > > >>> one. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Let > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> me > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> search > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke > > Chen < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to me. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a release > > >> > without > > >> > > > > > > >>>> ZK, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I'm > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wondering > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release criteria for > > it? > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is like, when > > the > > >> > > > > > > >>> code > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> freeze > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> date > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK removal > > tasks > > >> > > > > > > >>> open, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> what > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> should > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> do > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest of codes in > > >> > later > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releases, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> but > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related to ZK > > open > > >> for > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> users to > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> use, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> is > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The `--zookeeper` > > >> > > > > > > >>> option > > >> > > > > > > >>>> in > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using time-based > > management > > >> > in > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> v4.0, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'm > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" tasks and > > track > > >> > > > > > > >>> them > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> when > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> milestone > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss with the > > >> > > > > > > >>> community > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> if > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> there > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> are > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David > > Jacot > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release plan for > > Apache > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Kafka > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> . > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me know what > > >> you > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> think. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if you could > > >> > > > > > > >>> review > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> of > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I took the > > list > > >> > > > > > > >>> from > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> approved > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure that the > > list is > > >> > > > > > > >>> not > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> accurate. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM Luke > > Chen > > >> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge change > > release, > > >> > > > > > > >>> I'm > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> not > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> if > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release manager?) to > > help on > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releasing > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM Colin > > >> > > > > > > >>> McCabe > > >> > > > > > > >>>> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, Chris > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Egerton > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José > > >> > > > > > > >>> Armando > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> García > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sancio > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for volunteering David! > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:56 AM > > >> > > > > > > >>> David > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Arthur < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:48 AM > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Satish > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Duggana < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for volunteering! > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at 19:27, > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Lianet > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> M. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 9:54 a.m. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Justine > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Olshan > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > >> > > > > > > >>> 6:36 AM > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David for > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> volunteering! > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 於 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道： > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > >> > > > > > > >>>> volunteering! > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 3:11 PM > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to > > >> > > > > > > >>> volunteer > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> to be > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache Kafka > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0.0. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no > > >> > > > > > > >>>> objections, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'll > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> start > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple of > > >> > > > > > > >>>> days. > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/ > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Director, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> *Aiven* > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> +491715557497 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> | > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/ > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Berlin > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Saarenmaa, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hannu > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson, Kenneth > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Chen > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht > > >> > > > > > > >>> Charlottenburg, > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> HRB > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 209739 > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> B > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> > > 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