Hi Mickael/Chia-Ping, Regarding KIP-653: Upgrade log4j to log4j2, would it be possible to already merge the change while continuing to work on the system tests?
Hi Calvin, Thanks for letting me know. Those patches seem reasonably small. Hence, I have fine with merging them after the feature freeze but before the code freeze. Hi Chia-Ping, Let me take a look at KAFKA-18225. Best, David On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org> wrote: > hi David > > I have opened a blocker KAFKA-18225 to address an unsupported public API > in KRaft mode. > > Could you please review it to determine if a quick KIP is necessary? > > thanks, > Chia-Ping > > On 2024/12/11 08:45:54 David Jacot wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > Happy feature freeze day! Please remember that the big chunks of your > KIPs > > must be merged by today. In practice, I plan to cut the release branch on > > Monday so you have a few more days. If you cannot make it, please > reachout > > to me to discuss how to proceed. I will go and remove the KIPs which are > > not ready from the release plan on Monday too. > > > > Alyssa/Colin: > > Thanks for reaching out to me about KIP-966. It seems to me that > > https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2 is a pretty large change for > after > > the feature freeze. How do you quantify the risk? Do we have a way back > in > > case we cannot make it or if we discover issues? > > > > Andrew/Divij: > > Thanks! > > > > Luke: > > Good catch! I also stumbled upon it yesterday. Let's wait for Ismael. > > > > Best, > > David > > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 7:56 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > > > > Hey David and folks, > > > > > > > > I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 (PreVote) > in > > > two > > > > phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > > > > Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote RPC > includes > > > > PreVote field) by feature freeze > > > > Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new internal > > > Prospective > > > > QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Alyssa > > > > > > > > > > +1 frorm me. What do you think David? > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > > > > andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi David, > > > >> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method deprecation > > > >> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Andrew > > > >> ________________________________________ > > > >> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > >> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > > > >> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > > > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > > > >> > > > >> Hey David > > > >> > > > >> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now accepted > > > and I > > > >> have updated the release plan with the KIP. > > > >> > > > >> [1] > > > >> > > > >> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Divij Vaidya > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi <kiting...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Hello David, > > > >> > > > > >> > I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to Log4j2. > > > >> > This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now almost > ready. > > > >> > I’m currently working on it. > > > >> > > > > >> > Best regards, > > > >> > TengYao > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 週二 > 下午4:23寫道： > > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks, Luke! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Hi David, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks for checking the KIPs. > > > >> > > > I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above into the > > > release > > > >> > > plan, > > > >> > > > and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks. > > > >> > > > Luke > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot < > > > david.ja...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Hi all, > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > I just checked the release plan and it does not contain any > > > >> > > > > non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs too. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Best, > > > >> > > > > David > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > > > david.ja...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi PoAn/Ziming, > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Best, > > > >> > > > > > David > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > > > >> > > dengziming1...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi David & Luke, > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 to > the > > > >> release > > > >> > > > plan > > > >> > > > > which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after postpone > doing > > > it > > > >> we > > > >> > > can > > > >> > > > > directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from ConfgCommand to > > > avoid > > > >> > > making > > > >> > > > > our code dirty. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --, > > > >> > > > > > > Ziming > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > > > >> > > <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze > deadline > > > is > > > >> > > today. > > > >> > > > > As we > > > >> > > > > > > > have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I will > wait > > > >> until > > > >> > > > > Monday to > > > >> > > > > > > > compile the final list. Please update the status of > your > > > >> KIPs. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec 11th. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > >> > > > > > > > David > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > >> > > > > > > > David > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > > > >> > > dja...@confluent.io> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hi Divij, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> I think that we can make a small exception for > KIP-1030 > > > but > > > >> we > > > >> > > > > cannot wait > > > >> > > > > > > >> too long. How long do you need to close it? Ideally, > we > > > >> should > > > >> > > aim > > > >> > > > > for > > > >> > > > > > > >> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot do > it, we > > > may > > > >> > > have > > > >> > > > to > > > >> > > > > > > >> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> BR, > > > >> > > > > > > >> David > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > > > >> show...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Hi Tina, > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Thanks. > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Luke > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa Selenge < > > > >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Hi David, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has now > > > passed > > > >> the > > > >> > > > > voting so > > > >> > > > > > > >>> it > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> does not need an exceptional extension anymore. > Can we > > > >> > please > > > >> > > > > include > > > >> > > > > > > >>> it in > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> the release plan? > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Thank you. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Tina > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa Selenge < > > > >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional > extension for > > > >> > > KIP-1073 > > > >> > > > > [1] > > > >> > > > > > > >>> which > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via AdminClient. > This is > > > >> > > > > particularly > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, > because > > > >> > brokers > > > >> > > > > need to > > > >> > > > > > > >>> be > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no way > to > > > list > > > >> > the > > > >> > > > > brokers > > > >> > > > > > > >>> in > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> order to unregister once they are shut > down/fenced. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a > month and > > > >> has > > > >> > > > > currently 2 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also have > > > raised a > > > >> > > draft > > > >> > > > > PR for > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> implementation [3]. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 and > the > > > >> > > > > implementation is > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> ready for review, it would be great to include it > in > > > >> 4.0.0. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [1] > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [2] > > > >> > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Regards, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> Tina > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > > > >> > > show...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Divij, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 to > make > > > the > > > >> > kafka > > > >> > > > > default > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> value > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until > v5.0.0. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot < > dja...@confluent.io> > > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Luke > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij Vaidya < > > > >> > > > > > > >>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hey David > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional extension > for > > > >> > KIP-1030 > > > >> > > > [1] > > > >> > > > > > > >>> which > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> aims > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add some > new > > > >> > > constraints > > > >> > > > > for > > > >> > > > > > > >>> our > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward > incompatible > > > >> > > changes, > > > >> > > > > if > > > >> > > > > > > >>> they > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> don't > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could release > them > > > would > > > >> > be > > > >> > > > the > > > >> > > > > next > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> major > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> version. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last minute > very > > > >> > close > > > >> > > to > > > >> > > > > the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of Kafka > > > >> > maintenance > > > >> > > > > this KIP > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> could > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP for > 4.0 > > > even > > > >> > > after > > > >> > > > > the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David Jacot > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP > freeze is > > > on > > > >> > 20th > > > >> > > > > > > >>> November > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2024, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> one week from today. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen < > > > >> > > show...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > > > Chandraprakash > > > >> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to the > > > release > > > >> > > plan. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open a > voting > > > >> thread > > > >> > > > soon. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kamal > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke Chen < > > > >> > > > show...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release plan. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa Huang > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release manager > for > > > >> 4.0! > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> does > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) listed, > can I > > > edit > > > >> > the > > > >> > > > > > > >>> page > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> to > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> add > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it? > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM Colin > McCabe < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 is. > > > November > > > >> > > 20th. > > > >> > > > > > > >>> So > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> if > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> has > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should make it > into > > > 4.0 > > > >> > > > > > > >>> without > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> any > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> further > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is ready by > > > feature > > > >> > > > > > > >>> freeze.) > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, TengYao > Chi > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the inclusion of > > > >> KIP-1092 > > > >> > in > > > >> > > > > > > >>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> release > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I > believe it > > > >> will > > > >> > > > > > > >>> bring > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> valuable > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer and > Kafka > > > >> > Streams > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> components. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this addition. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 於 > > > 2024年10月11日 > > > >> > 週五 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道： > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe there's a > JIRA > > > >> for > > > >> > > > > > > >>> that > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> specifically > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, David > Jacot > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does it > include > > > >> > > > > > > >>> removing > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. > kafka-configs)? > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM Colin > > > McCabe < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal > tasks. > > > >> > Progress > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> has > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> been > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> pretty > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by January. > > > (Well > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> hopefully > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> even > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> earlier > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David > > > Jacot > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think that we > > > should > > > >> > > > > > > >>> try to > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stick > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we should > ensure > > > that > > > >> > ZK > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> and > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> all > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> related > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code > > > freeze. > > > >> > The > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> simplest > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> way > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> would > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal with > all the > > > >> > > > > > > >>> related > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> tasks. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> We > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> can > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may > already > > > have > > > >> > > > > > > >>> one. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Let > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> me > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> search > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke > > > Chen < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to me. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a > release > > > >> > without > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> ZK, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I'm > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wondering > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release criteria > for > > > it? > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is like, > when > > > the > > > >> > > > > > > >>> code > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> freeze > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> date > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK removal > > > tasks > > > >> > > > > > > >>> open, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> what > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> should > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> do > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest of > codes in > > > >> > later > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releases, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> but > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related to ZK > > > open > > > >> for > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> users to > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> use, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> is > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The > `--zookeeper` > > > >> > > > > > > >>> option > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> in > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using time-based > > > management > > > >> > in > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> v4.0, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'm > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" tasks and > > > track > > > >> > > > > > > >>> them > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> when > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> milestone > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss with > the > > > >> > > > > > > >>> community > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> if > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> there > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> are > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David > > > Jacot > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release plan for > > > Apache > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Kafka > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> . > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me know > what > > > >> you > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> think. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if you > could > > > >> > > > > > > >>> review > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> of > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I took > the > > > list > > > >> > > > > > > >>> from > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> approved > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure that the > > > list is > > > >> > > > > > > >>> not > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> accurate. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM > Luke > > > Chen > > > >> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge change > > > release, > > > >> > > > > > > >>> I'm > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> not > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> if > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release manager?) to > > > help on > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releasing > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM > Colin > > > >> > > > > > > >>> McCabe > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, > Chris > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Egerton > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Armando > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> García > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sancio > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for volunteering > David! > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > 11:56 AM > > > >> > > > > > > >>> David > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Arthur < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > 11:48 AM > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Satish > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Duggana < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > volunteering! > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at > 19:27, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Lianet > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> M. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, > 9:54 a.m. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Justine > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Olshan > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > >> > > > > > > >>> 6:36 AM > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David for > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> volunteering! > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 於 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道： > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> volunteering! > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 3:11 PM > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to > > > >> > > > > > > >>> volunteer > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> to be > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache Kafka > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0.0. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> objections, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'll > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> start > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple of > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> days. > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/ > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Director, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> *Aiven* > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> +491715557497 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> | > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/ > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Berlin > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Saarenmaa, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hannu > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson, Kenneth > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> Chen > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Charlottenburg, > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> HRB > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 209739 > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> B > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Arthur > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >
