Hi all,

I have opened https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19080 for Kirk's logging
observation.

Best,
David

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 12:22 PM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bruno,
>
> Please go ahead and cherry-pick it to 4.0.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:12 AM Bruno Cadonna <cado...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > we found an issue with Kafka Streams that definitely is a regression. A
> > commit fixed a leak, introduced a bug that prevented Kafka Streams from
> > re-initializing its transactional producer in case the producer is
> > fenced. The consequence of not re-initializing the transactional
> > producer is an infinite loop of ProducerFencedExceptions with
> > corresponding rebalances (approx every min).
> >
> > I opened a PR that reverts the defective commit:
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19078
> >
> > We tested the revert in our internal soak and everything seems fine
> again.
> >
> > May I cherry-pick the revert to 4.0?
> >
> > Best,
> > Bruno
> >
> > On 28.02.25 22:59, Ismael Juma wrote:
> > > Given that this is effectively a documentation fix, a cherry-pick makes
> > > sense.
> > >
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 1:30 PM Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io.invalid>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi, David,
> > >>
> > >> We just fixed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18864. Not
> sure
> > >> if you want to cherry-pick it to 4.0.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jun
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 7:22 PM Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks for the testing Kirk. Can you please file an issue for the
> > >> repeated
> > >>> log to make sure it doesn't get lost in this thread?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ismael
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 2:54 PM Kirk True <k...@kirktrue.pro> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I focused on testing the clients using Java 11:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My steps:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1. Start the broker via the native Docker image
> > >>>> (apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc0)
> > >>>> 2. Wrote a simple client to write and read messages, using
> > >> kafka-clients
> > >>>> 4.0.0 from https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging
> > >>>> 3. Ran my client with group.protocol set to CLASSIC
> > >>>> 4. I then ran the client with CONSUMER
> > >>>> 5. Finally, I ran two clients instances in the same consumer group,
> one
> > >>>> with a group.protocol set to CLASSIC and the other with CONSUMER
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Everything worked as expected.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I did notice the following message showing up repeatedly in the
> broker
> > >>>> logs after my tests completed:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Generated 0 tombstone records while cleaning up group metadata in 0
> > >>>> milliseconds.
> > >> (org.apache.kafka.coordinator.group.GroupCoordinatorShard)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Not sure if that's expected or not.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Kirk
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025, at 5:15 PM, Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> > >>>>> hi David
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I apologize for not testing the release candidate (RC) as I focused
> > >> on
> > >>>> reviewing the documentation. I have created tickets to address
> issues
> > >> in
> > >>>> the documentation [0][1][2][3], which will be merged into 4.0 as the
> > >> risk
> > >>>> is minimal.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please let me know if you have any other options for those tickets.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18869
> > >>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18868
> > >>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18850
> > >>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18849
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best,
> > >>>>> Chia-Ping
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 2025/02/22 10:16:43 David Jacot wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hello Kafka users, developers and client-developers,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> This is the first candidate for release of Apache Kafka 4.0.0. We
> > >>>>>> still have some remaining blockers but we figured that getting a
> > >>> first
> > >>>>>> release candidate will help the community to test this major
> > >> release.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - This is the first release without Apache Zookeeper
> > >>>>>> - The Next Generation of the Consumer Rebalance Protocol is
> > >> Generally
> > >>>> Available
> > >>>>>> - The Transactions Server-Side Defense (Phase 2) is Generally
> > >>> Available
> > >>>>>> - Queues for Kafka is in Early Access
> > >>>>>> - Kafka uses log4j2
> > >>>>>> - Drop broker and tools support for Java 11
> > >>>>>> - Remove old client protocol API versions
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Release notes for the 4.0.0 release:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/RELEASE_NOTES.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> *** Please download and test the release. Voting is not necessary
> > >> as
> > >>>>>> we still have blockers.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
> > >>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and binary):
> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Docker release artifacts to be voted upon:
> > >>>>>> apache/kafka:4.0.0-rc0
> > >>>>>> apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc0 (Building the native image failed, I
> > >>>>>> need to investigate it)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Javadoc:
> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/javadoc/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Tag to be voted upon (off 4.0 branch) is the 4.0.0 tag:
> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/4.0.0-rc0
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Documentation:
> > >>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Protocol:
> > >>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/40/protocol.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Successful CI builds for the 4.0 branch:
> > >>>>>> Unit/integration tests:
> > >>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13459676207
> > >>>>>> System tests: TBD
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Successful Docker Image Github Actions Pipeline for 4.0 branch:
> > >>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (JVM):
> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13471603921
> > >>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (Native):
> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13471605941
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> /**************************************
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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