Hi David,

I focused on testing the clients using Java 11:

My steps:

1. Start the broker via the native Docker image (apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc0)
2. Wrote a simple client to write and read messages, using kafka-clients 4.0.0 
from https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging
3. Ran my client with group.protocol set to CLASSIC
4. I then ran the client with CONSUMER
5. Finally, I ran two clients instances in the same consumer group, one with a 
group.protocol set to CLASSIC and the other with CONSUMER

Everything worked as expected.

I did notice the following message showing up repeatedly in the broker logs 
after my tests completed:

Generated 0 tombstone records while cleaning up group metadata in 0 
milliseconds. (org.apache.kafka.coordinator.group.GroupCoordinatorShard)

Not sure if that's expected or not.

Thanks,
Kirk

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025, at 5:15 PM, Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> hi David
> 
> I apologize for not testing the release candidate (RC) as I focused on 
> reviewing the documentation. I have created tickets to address issues in the 
> documentation [0][1][2][3], which will be merged into 4.0 as the risk is 
> minimal.
> 
> Please let me know if you have any other options for those tickets.
> 
> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18869
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18868
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18850
> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18849
> 
> Best,
> Chia-Ping
> 
> On 2025/02/22 10:16:43 David Jacot wrote:
> > Hello Kafka users, developers and client-developers,
> > 
> > This is the first candidate for release of Apache Kafka 4.0.0. We
> > still have some remaining blockers but we figured that getting a first
> > release candidate will help the community to test this major release.
> > 
> > - This is the first release without Apache Zookeeper
> > - The Next Generation of the Consumer Rebalance Protocol is Generally 
> > Available
> > - The Transactions Server-Side Defense (Phase 2) is Generally Available
> > - Queues for Kafka is in Early Access
> > - Kafka uses log4j2
> > - Drop broker and tools support for Java 11
> > - Remove old client protocol API versions
> > 
> > Release notes for the 4.0.0 release:
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/RELEASE_NOTES.html
> > 
> > *** Please download and test the release. Voting is not necessary as
> > we still have blockers.
> > 
> > Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
> > https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
> > 
> > * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and binary):
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/
> > 
> > * Docker release artifacts to be voted upon:
> > apache/kafka:4.0.0-rc0
> > apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc0 (Building the native image failed, I
> > need to investigate it)
> > 
> > * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
> > 
> > * Javadoc:
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc0/javadoc/
> > 
> > * Tag to be voted upon (off 4.0 branch) is the 4.0.0 tag:
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/4.0.0-rc0
> > 
> > * Documentation:
> > https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > 
> > * Protocol:
> > https://kafka.apache.org/40/protocol.html
> > 
> > * Successful CI builds for the 4.0 branch:
> > Unit/integration tests: 
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13459676207
> > System tests: TBD
> > 
> > * Successful Docker Image Github Actions Pipeline for 4.0 branch:
> > Docker Build Test Pipeline (JVM):
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13471603921
> > Docker Build Test Pipeline (Native):
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13471605941
> > 
> > /**************************************
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > David
> > 
> 

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