Hi Rajini,

About the gauges, I was thinking that the attribute would be the value
(i.e. commit id or version). I understand that Kafka Metrics doesn't
support this (unlike Yammer Metrics), but would it make sense to add?

Ismael

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Rajini Sivaram <rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Ismael,
>
> Thank you for the review.
>
> 1. Agree on keeping it simple with dynamic registration and no expiry. Will
> wait for Jun's feedback before updating KIP.
> 2. I have switched to two metrics for commit-id and version (not sure if it
> matches what you meant). I also added the client-id tag which is used in
> all metrics from clients.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajini
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the KIP, Rajini. I think this is helpful too. A few minor
> > comments.
> >
> > 1. About the number of metrics and expiration, if we dynamically register
> > metrics for the error codes, the number is likely to be much lower than
> > 30*30, probably less than 100. If we were using Kafka Metrics for this,
> we
> > could easily add a long expiration period to be conservative, but I am
> not
> > sure this is supported by Yammer Metrics. If it is not, there's an
> argument
> > for keeping it simple.
> >
> > 2. Would it make sense to use 2 gauges for the version and commit id? It
> > seems more intuitive than having those values as tags.
> >
> > Ismael
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Rajini Sivaram <
> rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jun,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the review.
> > >
> > > 1. Makes sense. I have updated the KIP.
> > > 2. Moved to a new group ZooKeeperClient
> > > 3. It is a gauge, so it will have a single attribute called Value with
> a
> > > constant value of 1.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Rajini
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:16 AM, Jun Rao <j...@confluent.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, Rajini,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the KIP. A few comments.
> > > >
> > > > 1. We have 30+ requests and 30+ error code and growing. So, the
> > > combination
> > > > can be large. Perhaps it's useful to expire an error metric if it's
> no
> > > > longer updated after some time? We did something similar for the
> quota
> > > > metric.
> > > >
> > > > 2. It's a bit weird to put the ZK latency metric under
> > > > type=SessionExpireListener.
> > > > Perhaps it's more intuitive to put it in a separate type.
> > > >
> > > > 3. For the client version metric, since we representing commit_id and
> > > > version as tags in the metric name. So the mbean will have no
> > attributes?
> > > >
> > > > Jun
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Roger Hoover <
> roger.hoo...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think it would useful to make clear somewhere for each metric,
> the
> > > > level
> > > > > at which it's counted.  I don't know all the details of the Kafka
> > > > protocol
> > > > > but it might be something like
> > > > >
> > > > > ProduceRequest, Fetch Request - counted at per-partition level
> > > > > All other requests are 1:1 with client requests?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Roger Hoover <
> > roger.hoo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rajini,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for the KIP.  These are very helpful additions.  One
> > > question
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the error code metrics:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will the total error counting happen at the the level of topic
> > > > partition?
> > > > > > For example, if a single ProduceRequest contains messages to
> append
> > > to
> > > > 3
> > > > > > partitions and say all 3 appends are successful, the counter
> > > > > > for kafka.network:type=RequestMetrics,name=ErrorsPerSec,request=
> > > > > ProduceRequest,error=0
> > > > > > will be incremented by 3?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> > > > > rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I have created a KIP to add some additional metrics to support
> > > health
> > > > > >> checks:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-188+-+
> > > > > >> Add+new+metrics+to+support+health+checks
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Feedback and suggestions are welcome.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Rajini
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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