+1 for creating the Karaf 2.2.x branch now, and moving trunk version
up to 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT. Perhaps we should state a policy of branching
trunk in the lead up to a dot zero release X weeks before a planned
release time? This would make early branching standard practice for
Karaf.

Jamie

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, not sure why my environment works, but it does ...
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What we've discussed several times by now :) While the jdk14.asc files are
>> included in the install/deploy cycle the regular ones are not --> I cant 
>> release
>> with those files missing
>>
>> kind regards,
>> andreas
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:56:45AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>> I can do that release.  What's the problem with the retrotranslator plugin ?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Since pax-url uses the maven-translator-plugin I can't release pax-url, 
>>> > but if
>>> > someone else jumps in here I can push out pax-web
>>> >
>>> > kind regards,
>>> > andreas
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:26:05AM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>> >> +1 for the stable 2.2.x branch for releasing.
>>> >> Regarding the removal of the assembly changes a +1 from me too.
>>> >> Regarding Pax-web and pax-url as being the only SNAPSHOT version still
>>> >> open, I'm
>>> >> working on it but maven didn't like me last night, I wasn't able to
>>> >> sign the jars.
>>> >> Will try another run tonight. Or if someone wants to step up and help me
>>> >> out on this, feel free. The latest version of pax-url and pax-web
>>> >> available on Github
>>> >> can be released. I can manage the release notes later tonight :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards, Achim
>>> >>
>>> >> 2011/2/4 Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>:
>>> >> > That could well be another valid option.
>>> >> > David, can Geronimo live with a 2.99-SNAPSHOT for a while or would
>>> >> > that be needed soon ?
>>> >> > I guess we could also release a bunch of RC somehow if needed for
>>> >> > geronimo milestones.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 07:24, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> +1 for doing so and the name. I think we are already very late with 
>>> >> >> this. We
>>> >> >> should have forked about 4 weeks ago...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> BTW, I think we should consider removing assemlies and features 
>>> >> >> /assembly /
>>> >> >> framework from 2.2.x. IMHO this requires more work and fine tuning 
>>> >> >> before
>>> >> >> release
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Kind regards
>>> >> >> Andreas
>>> >> >> On 4 Feb 2011 07:06, "Guillaume Nodet" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>> If there are no objections, I'll branch karaf-2.2.x now in order to
>>> >> >>> get the release stabilized as suggested by Andreas.
>>> >> >>> This means any new development will occur in trunk which will moved 
>>> >> >>> to
>>> >> >>> 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT ?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 04:34, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> 
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> OK, there are many points in my head about this for some time now 
>>> >> >>>> and I
>>> >> >> hope I
>>> >> >>>> get them out straight here. If I'm not able to make any of my points
>>> >> >> clear don't
>>> >> >>>> hesitate to ask :)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> First of all I'm completely with Guillaume. I don't like the way 
>>> >> >>>> Karaf
>>> >> >> blows
>>> >> >>>> up. We have a standard and an enterprise distribution and a minimal
>>> >> >> distribution
>>> >> >>>> and in future one for android... STOP. I think this is not the way 
>>> >> >>>> Karaf
>>> >> >> should go.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> In addition, tbh I also don't like the way client projects (such as 
>>> >> >>>> smx)
>>> >> >> have to
>>> >> >>>> tweak Karaf around to make it runnable. This makes everything 
>>> >> >>>> complex and
>>> >> >> not
>>> >> >>>> easy to use understand/start with.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Next I think the root of all evil are our configuration files. The 
>>> >> >>>> need
>>> >> >> that we
>>> >> >>>> have to tweak system.properties, custom.properties, jre.properties,
>>> >> >>>> org...features.cfg to get a running, custom distribution. This does 
>>> >> >>>> not
>>> >> >> feel
>>> >> >>>> right.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Fourth: I don't like that we need to use our own maven plugins to 
>>> >> >>>> build
>>> >> >> Karaf is
>>> >> >>>> IMHO a sign that Karaf is becoming much too big...
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Last but not least, I hate that I have to google for all those 
>>> >> >>>> feature
>>> >> >> urls
>>> >> >>>> and collect them locally to not forgetting them :)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> OK, so far to the problems. According to the mails I've read by now 
>>> >> >>>> I
>>> >> >> think I'm
>>> >> >>>> not the only one aware of those problems :) --> I would propose some
>>> >> >> roadmap
>>> >> >>>> to get this straight again:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 1) branch off karaf-2.x branch now (independent of the missing 
>>> >> >>>> versions)
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >>>> stay as it is now. Some ppl already depend on karaf-2.1.99-SNAPSHOT 
>>> >> >>>> and I
>>> >> >> don't
>>> >> >>>> think that we'll make friends if we make any drastically changes to 
>>> >> >>>> this
>>> >> >>>> version.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 2) Start developing karaf-2.99.99-SNAPSHOT right now.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 3) As a first step I think we should add something like an online
>>> >> >> registry to
>>> >> >>>> Karaf where feature files could be found. E.g. something like
>>> >> >>>> karaf.apache.org/registry.xml. This would allow us to make Karaf 
>>> >> >>>> behave
>>> >> >> the same
>>> >> >>>> without having to pack everything together during assembly phase. 
>>> >> >>>> Here it
>>> >> >> may
>>> >> >>>> also help to add a features:addregistryurl command allowing clients 
>>> >> >>>> to
>>> >> >> host
>>> >> >>>> their own registries.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 4) Move enterprise.features.xml into aries project, split
>>> >> >> standard.features.xml
>>> >> >>>> into the different projects: karaf-obr, karaf-ssh, ops4j-web (e.g. 
>>> >> >>>> with
>>> >> >> jetty),
>>> >> >>>> spring2, spring3, ... and create own projects for the additional
>>> >> >> components. I'm
>>> >> >>>> with Jamie that this will complex the release process, but IMHO
>>> >> >> everything we
>>> >> >>>> create features files for shouldn't be in the core. As said somehow 
>>> >> >>>> I
>>> >> >> even don't
>>> >> >>>> like that we have features.xml in the core at all. All those 
>>> >> >>>> features.xml
>>> >> >> have
>>> >> >>>> to be added to the registry. This way we could guarantee that Karaf 
>>> >> >>>> still
>>> >> >>>> behaves the same although we've reduced the core
>>> >> >> packages/repo/distribution.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 5) We have to extend the kar/features.xml model drastically adding
>>> >> >> variation
>>> >> >>>> points for the different configuration possibilities in Karaf. E.g. 
>>> >> >>>> we
>>> >> >> need a
>>> >> >>>> variation point for lib, jre.properties, etc/(to add additional 
>>> >> >>>> property
>>> >> >> files),
>>> >> >>>> system (where we drop additional .jre bundles, ...), brandings, ... 
>>> >> >>>> With
>>> >> >> that some variation
>>> >> >>>> points require Karaf to reboot (we couldn't change everything at
>>> >> >> runtime). Which
>>> >> >>>> means we have to cache the changes and apply them on reboot. In 
>>> >> >>>> addition
>>> >> >> I know
>>> >> >>>> that there will be some pain in config file merging, but I think 
>>> >> >>>> this
>>> >> >> will be
>>> >> >>>> worth the effort.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 6) Now that we've removed all the specific things from Karaf we can
>>> >> >> reduce the
>>> >> >>>> build process completely to one minimal distribution of Karaf (at 
>>> >> >>>> maximum
>>> >> >> one
>>> >> >>>> additional for android?!) without using the features concepts 
>>> >> >>>> directly in
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >>>> kernel. This will also allow us to develop the karaf-maven-plugin
>>> >> >> directly in
>>> >> >>>> the kernel without the burden of forking the process anywhere.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 7) I think by that we're almost finished now. We can start 
>>> >> >>>> contributing
>>> >> >>>> features/kar packages for cxf, apache ds, camel, ... and add them 
>>> >> >>>> again
>>> >> >> to the
>>> >> >>>> registry. For this process the karaf-maven-plugin could/should be 
>>> >> >>>> used.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 8) Now a user will first of all create its own kar/features which 
>>> >> >>>> tweak
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >>>> kernel as required. Finally he can either provide the kar/features 
>>> >> >>>> bundle
>>> >> >> only.
>>> >> >>>> The assembly process will (and should) always look like (reduced):
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> karaf-maven-plugin
>>> >> >>>> execution: distribution
>>> >> >>>> kar-list (branding, docs, ... everything is a kar file, nothing more
>>> >> >> here)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> IMHO with all of this we can finally provide only one very small
>>> >> >> distribution.
>>> >> >>>> Someone only experimenting/developing can do a
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> features:install war, cfx, ds
>>> >> >>>> admin:reboot
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Everyone else can create distributions as he likes.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> OK, I know that not all of those points are new or exclusively by 
>>> >> >>>> me,
>>> >> >> some go a
>>> >> >>>> little bit a different direction than discussed by now and not all 
>>> >> >>>> of
>>> >> >> them are
>>> >> >>>> nailed down to the latest detail (by now). Please don't flame me 
>>> >> >>>> because
>>> >> >> of this;
>>> >> >>>> I know that this is not the only way to go but it somehow feels 
>>> >> >>>> right to
>>> >> >> me :)
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> so... wdyt?
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> kind regards,
>>> >> >>>> andreas
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 12:07:42AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>> >> >>>>> Yeah, the problem is that Karaf itself isn't a container for Camel 
>>> >> >>>>> or
>>> >> >>>>> CXF and we have some users that just want to plain JRE without any
>>> >> >>>>> tweaks for running SAAJ because they don't care.
>>> >> >>>>> ServiceMix on the other hand is dedicated to host such 
>>> >> >>>>> applications,
>>> >> >>>>> so that's why the default config works better.
>>> >> >>>>> I'm ok with the idea of profiles in karaf, but we need to make 
>>> >> >>>>> sure we
>>> >> >>>>> don't end up with having to include and depend on all apache 
>>> >> >>>>> projects,
>>> >> >>>>> as Karaf itself has imho no purpose of becoming a default 
>>> >> >>>>> distribution
>>> >> >>>>> of CXF, Camel, ActiveMQ, Directory, etc...
>>> >> >>>>> I think each project could easily provide a karaf features so that
>>> >> >>>>> they would easily be deployed in a bare Karaf, but at some point, 
>>> >> >>>>> it
>>> >> >>>>> does not really scale nor make sense to put everything back into
>>> >> >>>>> Karaf.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Tweaking the system properties is sometimes needed depending on 
>>> >> >>>>> what
>>> >> >>>>> you need to deploy, because OSGi is lacking on certain areas (or
>>> >> >>>>> because the JVM isn't really modular, depending on how you see
>>> >> >>>>> things).  Some people are happy with using the JAXB implementation
>>> >> >>>>> from the JVM without being able to change it easily, some people 
>>> >> >>>>> may
>>> >> >>>>> want to be able to deploy those as OSGi bundles.  Karaf can't do 
>>> >> >>>>> both
>>> >> >>>>> at the same time.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Another point, is that the amount of third party dependencies is
>>> >> >>>>> becoming increasingly important in Karaf, and that's really 
>>> >> >>>>> becoming a
>>> >> >>>>> problem for simply releasing Karaf in an efficient manner.
>>> >> >>>>> So I'm tempted to say that we should push back on those projects 
>>> >> >>>>> and
>>> >> >>>>> have them provide karaf features, rather than having karaf 
>>> >> >>>>> providing
>>> >> >>>>> features for those.  I'm mostly thinking here about pax-web and the
>>> >> >>>>> war support (which is really cool, no doubt on that) and aries and
>>> >> >>>>> support for things we don't embed by default (jpa, etc..).
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> I certainly don't have a good answer yet, but I just want to make 
>>> >> >>>>> sure
>>> >> >>>>> everyone is aware of the potential problem.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> If we keep adding dependencies, our release cycles will 
>>> >> >>>>> necessarily be
>>> >> >>>>> longer and longer ....  For example camel has a release cycle of 
>>> >> >>>>> one
>>> >> >>>>> minor version every few months, ServiceMix even less, while CXF has
>>> >> >>>>> much less external dependencies and manage to keep a high 
>>> >> >>>>> frequency of
>>> >> >>>>> releases.  2.2 could have been shipped early december, but we were
>>> >> >>>>> waiting for aries.  Now aries has been released, but we still have
>>> >> >>>>> some snapshots dependencies on some felix or ops4j components.  And
>>> >> >>>>> we've added stuff that's not completely stabilized.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Once again, I'm just trying to state facts so that everybody
>>> >> >>>>> understand the situation.  I'm personnaly not really happy that the
>>> >> >>>>> 2.2 release is planned since 2 months but still can't get out and I
>>> >> >>>>> think it clearly means that we're going in a wrong direction 
>>> >> >>>>> somehow
>>> >> >>>>> ....
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Sorry for the rant.  There are a bunch of unrelated things here, 
>>> >> >>>>> ...
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:29, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>>> >> >>>>> <[email protected]>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>> > Claus already raised a Jira about that.
>>> >> >>>>> >
>>> >> >>>>> > Guillaume wasn't very ok to set the jre.properties by default.
>>> >> >>>>> >
>>> >> >>>>> > On the other hand, I launched a discussion thread about Karaf
>>> >> >> profiles. It's
>>> >> >>>>> > typically the kind of tuning which is part of a profiles.
>>> >> >>>>> >
>>> >> >>>>> > Waiting for the profiles design, we can provide a Karaf 
>>> >> >>>>> > Enterprise
>>> >> >>>>> > distribution including this kind of tuning related to 
>>> >> >>>>> > Camel/CXF/SMX.
>>> >> >>>>> >
>>> >> >>>>> > I add Karaf dev mailing list to see what the team says :)
>>> >> >>>>> >
>>> >> >>>>> > Regards
>>> >> >>>>> > JB
>>> >> >>>>> >
>>> >> >>>>> > On 02/02/2011 11:21 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> >> Are these adapted jre.properties only usefull for Servicemix 
>>> >> >>>>> >> and the
>>> >> >>>>> >> Talend Service Factory or do you think it would make sense to 
>>> >> >>>>> >> change
>>> >> >> them in
>>> >> >>>>> >> the karaf distribution.
>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> >> Best regards
>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> >> Christian
>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> >> >>>>> >> Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> >> >>>>> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 11:02
>>> >> >>>>> >> An: [email protected]
>>> >> >>>>> >> Betreff: Re: AW: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> >> Yeah, you can take a look on the ServiceMix one too :)
>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> >> Regards
>>> >> >>>>> >> JB
>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>> >> >>>>> >> On 02/02/2011 10:26 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> I think I was able to solve the problem. I had to change the
>>> >> >>>>> >>> jre.properties to exclude some packages from the system bundle
>>> >> >> export.
>>> >> >>>>> >>> The jre.properties from the Talend Service Factory seem to 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> work:
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> http://de.talend.com/products-application-integration/talend-service-factory-community-edition.php
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Christian
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Von: Christian Schneider [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 09:52
>>> >> >>>>> >>> An: [email protected]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Betreff: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Hi all,
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> I am trying to run Apache Camel (feature camel-cxf) in Apache 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Karaf.
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> I am using a fresh Karaf 2.1.3 download.
>>> >> >>>>> >>> I start karaf and enter:
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>>> features:addurl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>> mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/apache-camel/2.6.0/xml/features
>>> >> >>>>> >>>> features:install camel-cxf
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> I get an exception while starting
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl:
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Unable to resolve 97.0: missing requirement [97.0] package;
>>> >> >>>>> >>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Christian
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> ----------------------
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 02.02.2011 09:46:08 org.apache.karaf.main.SimpleFileLock lock
>>> >> >>>>> >>> INFO: locking
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,765 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>> >> >> -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Starting JMX OSGi agent
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,781 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>> >> >> -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering MBean with ObjectName
>>> >> >>>>> >>> [osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3] for service with 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> service.id[10]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.features.command is
>>> >> >> waiting for
>>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.osgi is 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> waiting for
>>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>> >> >> -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | There are no MBean servers registred, can't
>>> >> >> register
>>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeans
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,890 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.console is 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> waiting
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>> >> >> http://aries.apache.org/blueprint/xmlns/blueprint-ext/v1.0.0))]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:09,968 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.dev is 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> waiting for
>>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:10,218 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.ssh is 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> waiting for
>>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:10,234 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.admin.command is 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> waiting
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:10,250 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.commands is 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> waiting
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:10,375 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.packages is 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> waiting
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >>>>> >>> namespace handlers
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>> >> >> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:11,609 | INFO  | Thread-5         | FeaturesServiceImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to refresh:
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:11,640 | INFO  | rint Extender: 3 | SecurityUtils
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | e.sshd.common.util.SecurityUtils   80 | 25 - sshd-core - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.4.0 |
>>> >> >>>>> >>> BouncyCastle not registered, using the default JCE provider
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:11,968 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>> >> >> -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>> >> >> org.osgi.jmx.framework.BundleStateMBean to
>>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> name
>>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.core:type=bundleState,version=1.5
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>> >> >> -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>> >> >> org.osgi.jmx.framework.ServiceStateMBean to
>>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> name
>>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.core:type=serviceState,version=1.5
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>> >> >> -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.FrameworkMBean
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> name
>>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.core:type=framework,version=1.5
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>> >> >> -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.osgi.jmx.service.cm.ConfigurationAdminMBean to MBeanServer
>>> >> >>>>> >>> com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
>>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>> >> >> -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>> >> >> org.osgi.jmx.framework.PackageStateMBean to
>>> >> >>>>> >>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> name
>>> >> >>>>> >>> osgi.core:type=packageState,version=1.5
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:08,234 | INFO  | l Console Thread | FeaturesServiceImpl
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to refresh:
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:08,656 | INFO  | l Console Thread | ContextLoaderListener
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  356 | 44 -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Starting
>>> >> >>>>> >>> [org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread | ExtenderConfiguration
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | al.support.ExtenderConfiguration  150 | 44 -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | No custom extender
>>> >> >> configuration
>>> >> >>>>> >>> detected; using defaults...
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread | TimerTaskExecutor
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  106 | 38 -
>>> >> >> org.springframework.context
>>> >> >>>>> >>> - 3.0.5.RELEASE | Initializing Timer
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:09,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   83 | 51 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>> >> >>>>> >>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator starting
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:09,312 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   86 | 51 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>> >> >>>>> >>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator started
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   90 | 51 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>> >> >>>>> >>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopping
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   92 | 51 -
>>> >> >> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>> >> >>>>> >>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopped
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread | ContextLoaderListener
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  449 | 44 -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Stopping
>>> >> >>>>> >>> [org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread | TimerTaskExecutor
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  179 | 38 -
>>> >> >> org.springframework.context
>>> >> >>>>> >>> - 3.0.5.RELEASE | Cancelling Timer
>>> >> >>>>> >>> 09:48:12,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Console
>>> >> >>>>> >>>  | araf.shell.console.jline.Console  188 | 11 -
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console - 2.1.3 | Exception caught while
>>> >> >> executing
>>> >> >>>>> >>> command
>>> >> >>>>> >>> java.lang.Exception: Could not start bundle
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> mvn:org.apache.servicemix.bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl/1.3.2_1
>>> >> >>>>> >>> in feature(s) camel-cxf-2.6.0: Unresolved constraint in bundle
>>> >> >>>>> >>> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]: Unable to resolve
>>> >> >> 97.0:
>>> >> >>>>> >>> missing requirement [97.0] package;
>>> >> >>>>> >>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:326)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:254)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:250)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.command.InstallFeatureCommand.doExecute(InstallFeatureCommand.java:51)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.command.FeaturesCommandSupport.doExecute(FeaturesCommandSupport.java:39)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.shell.console.OsgiCommandSupport.execute(OsgiCommandSupport.java:38)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.commands.basic.AbstractCommand.execute(AbstractCommand.java:35)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandProxy.execute(CommandProxy.java:50)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:229)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.executeStatement(Closure.java:162)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Pipe.run(Pipe.java:101)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:79)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandSessionImpl.execute(CommandSessionImpl.java:71)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.shell.console.jline.Console.run(Console.java:170)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)[:1.6.0_23]
>>> >> >>>>> >>> Caused by: org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved 
>>> >> >>>>> >>> constraint
>>> >> >> in
>>> >> >>>>> >>> bundle org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]: Unable to
>>> >> >> resolve 97.0:
>>> >> >>>>> >>> missing requirement [97.0] package;
>>> >> >>>>> >>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.resolveBundle(Felix.java:3409)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.startBundle(Felix.java:1709)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:905)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:892)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  at
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:323)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>> >> >>>>> >>>                  ... 14 more
>>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>> >> >>>>> >
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> --
>>> >> >>>>> Cheers,
>>> >> >>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------
>>> >> >>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------
>>> >> >>>>> Open Source SOA
>>> >> >>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> --
>>> >> >>> Cheers,
>>> >> >>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> >> >>> ------------------------
>>> >> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> >> >>> ------------------------
>>> >> >>> Open Source SOA
>>> >> >>> http://fusesource.com
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Cheers,
>>> >> > Guillaume Nodet
>>> >> > ------------------------
>>> >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> >> > ------------------------
>>> >> > Open Source SOA
>>> >> > http://fusesource.com
>>> >> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> ------------------------
>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA
>>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>

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