Remember that a release has to be voted on.  We can't publish
artifacts that the PMC has not voted.
So I don't think that's really something doable within the Apache
Software Foundation.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 14:20, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah, it makes sense.
>
> I'm agree with Andreas, it's more Release Candidates more that Milestone.
>
> It could be part of the material created with the branch aka Hudson/Jenkins
> build.
> We can have a timeline to release one RC per week or something like this.
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 02/04/2011 02:19 PM, Andreas Pieber wrote:
>>
>> I think this will be rather RCs than Ms; In addition are always work
>> somehow. If
>> you could push them completely inofficial to the apache-repo I think this
>> is a
>> good idea getting more ppl to validate it.
>>
>> kind regards,
>> andreas
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 01:58:30PM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 on the release branch with a time window to get stable, we might
>>> consider to release a Milestone at the starting point of such a
>>> branch. WDYT?
>>>
>>> Achim
>>>
>>> 2011/2/4 Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>> Big +1 from my side. I think 2-3 weeks should be sufficient.
>>>>
>>>> With the current release cycles of 2-3 month means pushig 2 month
>>>> features
>>>> and than 2-3 weeks stabilizing.
>>>>
>>>> kind regards,
>>>> andreas
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:01:59AM -0330, Jamie G. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for creating the Karaf 2.2.x branch now, and moving trunk version
>>>>> up to 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT. Perhaps we should state a policy of branching
>>>>> trunk in the lead up to a dot zero release X weeks before a planned
>>>>> release time? This would make early branching standard practice for
>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Guillaume Nodet<[email protected]>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, not sure why my environment works, but it does ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we've discussed several times by now :) While the jdk14.asc
>>>>>>> files are
>>>>>>> included in the install/deploy cycle the regular ones are not -->  I
>>>>>>> cant release
>>>>>>> with those files missing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>> andreas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:56:45AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can do that release.  What's the problem with the retrotranslator
>>>>>>>> plugin ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since pax-url uses the maven-translator-plugin I can't release
>>>>>>>>> pax-url, but if
>>>>>>>>> someone else jumps in here I can push out pax-web
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>>>> andreas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:26:05AM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 for the stable 2.2.x branch for releasing.
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the removal of the assembly changes a +1 from me too.
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding Pax-web and pax-url as being the only SNAPSHOT version
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> open, I'm
>>>>>>>>>> working on it but maven didn't like me last night, I wasn't able
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> sign the jars.
>>>>>>>>>> Will try another run tonight. Or if someone wants to step up and
>>>>>>>>>> help me
>>>>>>>>>> out on this, feel free. The latest version of pax-url and pax-web
>>>>>>>>>> available on Github
>>>>>>>>>> can be released. I can manage the release notes later tonight :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2011/2/4 Guillaume Nodet<[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That could well be another valid option.
>>>>>>>>>>> David, can Geronimo live with a 2.99-SNAPSHOT for a while or
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> that be needed soon ?
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess we could also release a bunch of RC somehow if needed for
>>>>>>>>>>> geronimo milestones.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 07:24, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for doing so and the name. I think we are already very late
>>>>>>>>>>>> with this. We
>>>>>>>>>>>> should have forked about 4 weeks ago...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, I think we should consider removing assemlies and features
>>>>>>>>>>>> /assembly /
>>>>>>>>>>>> framework from 2.2.x. IMHO this requires more work and fine
>>>>>>>>>>>> tuning before
>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Feb 2011 07:06, "Guillaume Nodet"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no objections, I'll branch karaf-2.2.x now in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the release stabilized as suggested by Andreas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This means any new development will occur in trunk which will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 04:34, Andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pieber<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, there are many points in my head about this for some time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hope I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get them out straight here. If I'm not able to make any of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitate to ask :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all I'm completely with Guillaume. I don't like the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> blows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. We have a standard and an enterprise distribution and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and in future one for android... STOP. I think this is not the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> should go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, tbh I also don't like the way client projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (such as smx)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweak Karaf around to make it runnable. This makes everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy to use understand/start with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next I think the root of all evil are our configuration files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The need
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to tweak system.properties, custom.properties,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jre.properties,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org...features.cfg to get a running, custom distribution. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fourth: I don't like that we need to use our own maven plugins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO a sign that Karaf is becoming much too big...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last but not least, I hate that I have to google for all those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> urls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and collect them locally to not forgetting them :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so far to the problems. According to the mails I've read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by now I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> think I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the only one aware of those problems :) -->  I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propose some
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> roadmap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get this straight again:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) branch off karaf-2.x branch now (independent of the missing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay as it is now. Some ppl already depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf-2.1.99-SNAPSHOT and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that we'll make friends if we make any drastically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Start developing karaf-2.99.99-SNAPSHOT right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) As a first step I think we should add something like an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> registry to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf where feature files could be found. E.g. something like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf.apache.org/registry.xml. This would allow us to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf behave
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having to pack everything together during assembly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phase. Here it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also help to add a features:addregistryurl command allowing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> host
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own registries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Move enterprise.features.xml into aries project, split
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> standard.features.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the different projects: karaf-obr, karaf-ssh, ops4j-web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g. with
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> jetty),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spring2, spring3, ... and create own projects for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> components. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Jamie that this will complex the release process, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create features files for shouldn't be in the core. As said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somehow I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> even don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that we have features.xml in the core at all. All those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be added to the registry. This way we could guarantee that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaves the same although we've reduced the core
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> packages/repo/distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) We have to extend the kar/features.xml model drastically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> variation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points for the different configuration possibilities in Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E.g. we
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> need a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variation point for lib, jre.properties, etc/(to add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional property
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> files),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system (where we drop additional .jre bundles, ...),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brandings, ... With
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that some variation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points require Karaf to reboot (we couldn't change everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> runtime). Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means we have to cache the changes and apply them on reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there will be some pain in config file merging, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth the effort.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Now that we've removed all the specific things from Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build process completely to one minimal distribution of Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (at maximum
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional for android?!) without using the features concepts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kernel. This will also allow us to develop the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf-maven-plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> directly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the kernel without the burden of forking the process anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7) I think by that we're almost finished now. We can start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features/kar packages for cxf, apache ds, camel, ... and add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them again
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registry. For this process the karaf-maven-plugin could/should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8) Now a user will first of all create its own kar/features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which tweak
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kernel as required. Finally he can either provide the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kar/features bundle
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The assembly process will (and should) always look like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (reduced):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf-maven-plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution: distribution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kar-list (branding, docs, ... everything is a kar file,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing more
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> here)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO with all of this we can finally provide only one very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone only experimenting/developing can do a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features:install war, cfx, ds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admin:reboot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else can create distributions as he likes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I know that not all of those points are new or exclusively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by me,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> some go a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little bit a different direction than discussed by now and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nailed down to the latest detail (by now). Please don't flame
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me because
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> of this;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that this is not the only way to go but it somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feels right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> me :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so... wdyt?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 12:07:42AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the problem is that Karaf itself isn't a container for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camel or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CXF and we have some users that just want to plain JRE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaks for running SAAJ because they don't care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ServiceMix on the other hand is dedicated to host such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that's why the default config works better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with the idea of profiles in karaf, but we need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sure we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't end up with having to include and depend on all apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as Karaf itself has imho no purpose of becoming a default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of CXF, Camel, ActiveMQ, Directory, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think each project could easily provide a karaf features so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they would easily be deployed in a bare Karaf, but at some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not really scale nor make sense to put everything back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tweaking the system properties is sometimes needed depending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need to deploy, because OSGi is lacking on certain areas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because the JVM isn't really modular, depending on how you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things).  Some people are happy with using the JAXB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the JVM without being able to change it easily, some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be able to deploy those as OSGi bundles.  Karaf can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another point, is that the amount of third party dependencies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming increasingly important in Karaf, and that's really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem for simply releasing Karaf in an efficient manner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I'm tempted to say that we should push back on those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have them provide karaf features, rather than having karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> providing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features for those.  I'm mostly thinking here about pax-web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war support (which is really cool, no doubt on that) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aries and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support for things we don't embed by default (jpa, etc..).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I certainly don't have a good answer yet, but I just want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone is aware of the potential problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we keep adding dependencies, our release cycles will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessarily be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer and longer ....  For example camel has a release cycle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor version every few months, ServiceMix even less, while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CXF has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much less external dependencies and manage to keep a high
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequency of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases.  2.2 could have been shipped early december, but we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for aries.  Now aries has been released, but we still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some snapshots dependencies on some felix or ops4j
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components.  And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we've added stuff that's not completely stabilized.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, I'm just trying to state facts so that everybody
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the situation.  I'm personnaly not really happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.2 release is planned since 2 months but still can't get out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it clearly means that we're going in a wrong direction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the rant.  There are a bunch of unrelated things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:29, Jean-Baptiste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Onofré<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claus already raised a Jira about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume wasn't very ok to set the jre.properties by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I launched a discussion thread about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> profiles. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically the kind of tuning which is part of a profiles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waiting for the profiles design, we can provide a Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution including this kind of tuning related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camel/CXF/SMX.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I add Karaf dev mailing list to see what the team says :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/02/2011 11:21 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these adapted jre.properties only usefull for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Servicemix and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend Service Factory or do you think it would make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to change
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> them in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the karaf distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 11:02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: AW: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, you can take a look on the ServiceMix one too :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/02/2011 10:26 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I was able to solve the problem. I had to change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jre.properties to exclude some packages from the system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> export.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The jre.properties from the Talend Service Factory seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.talend.com/products-application-integration/talend-service-factory-community-edition.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Christian Schneider [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 09:52
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to run Apache Camel (feature camel-cxf) in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using a fresh Karaf 2.1.3 download.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I start karaf and enter:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features:addurl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/apache-camel/2.6.0/xml/features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features:install camel-cxf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get an exception while starting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to resolve 97.0: missing requirement [97.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> package;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 02.02.2011 09:46:08 org.apache.karaf.main.SimpleFileLock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> INFO: locking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,765 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Starting JMX OSGi agent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,781 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering MBean with ObjectName
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3] for service with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service.id[10]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.command is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.osgi is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,796 | WARN  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | There are no MBean servers registred,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> register
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,890 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aries.apache.org/blueprint/xmlns/blueprint-ext/v1.0.0))]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:09,968 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.dev is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:10,218 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.ssh is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:10,234 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.admin.command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:10,250 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.commands
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:10,375 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BlueprintContainerImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.packages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> namespace handlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:11,609 | INFO  | Thread-5         |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FeaturesServiceImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refresh:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:11,640 | INFO  | rint Extender: 3 | SecurityUtils
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | e.sshd.common.util.SecurityUtils   80 | 25 - sshd-core
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 0.4.0 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BouncyCastle not registered, using the default JCE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:11,968 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.BundleStateMBean to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.core:type=bundleState,version=1.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.ServiceStateMBean to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.core:type=serviceState,version=1.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.FrameworkMBean
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.core:type=framework,version=1.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.service.cm.ConfigurationAdminMBean to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.2.0.incubating | Registering
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.osgi.jmx.framework.PackageStateMBean to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi.core:type=packageState,version=1.5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:08,234 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FeaturesServiceImpl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refresh:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:08,656 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContextLoaderListener
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  356 | 44 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Starting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ExtenderConfiguration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | al.support.ExtenderConfiguration  150 | 44 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | No custom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extender
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detected; using defaults...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TimerTaskExecutor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  106 | 38 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.context
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3.0.5.RELEASE | Initializing Timer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:09,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   83 | 51 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator starting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:09,312 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   86 | 51 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   90 | 51 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   92 | 51 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.camel.camel-core
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContextLoaderListener
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  449 | 44 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Stopping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TimerTaskExecutor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  179 | 38 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.context
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3.0.5.RELEASE | Cancelling Timer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:48:12,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | araf.shell.console.jline.Console  188 | 11 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console - 2.1.3 | Exception caught
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> executing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.Exception: Could not start bundle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn:org.apache.servicemix.bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl/1.3.2_1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in feature(s) camel-cxf-2.6.0: Unresolved constraint in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]: Unable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolve
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 97.0:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing requirement [97.0] package;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:326)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:254)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:250)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.command.InstallFeatureCommand.doExecute(InstallFeatureCommand.java:51)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.command.FeaturesCommandSupport.doExecute(FeaturesCommandSupport.java:39)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console.OsgiCommandSupport.execute(OsgiCommandSupport.java:38)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.commands.basic.AbstractCommand.execute(AbstractCommand.java:35)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandProxy.execute(CommandProxy.java:50)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:229)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.executeStatement(Closure.java:162)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Pipe.run(Pipe.java:101)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:79)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandSessionImpl.execute(CommandSessionImpl.java:71)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.shell.console.jline.Console.run(Console.java:170)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)[:1.6.0_23]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caused by: org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constraint
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> resolve 97.0:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing requirement [97.0] package;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.resolveBundle(Felix.java:3409)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.startBundle(Felix.java:1709)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:905)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:892)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:323)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  ... 14 more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>
>>>>
>



-- 
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com

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