I think they will not be seen as JIRA targets; naming could be 2.2.0.RCX; I
don't think that we want to sign them. Keep this as simple and fast as possible.
I think we simply want to provide an easier method for users to test and provide
feedback, not making "official" pre-releases...

WDYT?

kind regards,
andreas

On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 10:14:26AM -0330, Jamie G. wrote:
> So how would we version these RCs? Also would these be signed releases?
> 
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 02:20:32PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >> Yeah, it makes sense.
> >>
> >> I'm agree with Andreas, it's more Release Candidates more that Milestone.
> >>
> >> It could be part of the material created with the branch aka
> >> Hudson/Jenkins build.
> >> We can have a timeline to release one RC per week or something like this.
> >
> > The weekly release of RCs here makes perfect sense IMO. In addition we may
> > reach a broader range of ppl helping us testing and making x.Xer releases
> > more stable
> >
> > kind regards,
> > andreas
> >
> >>
> >> WDYT ?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >> On 02/04/2011 02:19 PM, Andreas Pieber wrote:
> >> >I think this will be rather RCs than Ms; In addition are always work 
> >> >somehow. If
> >> >you could push them completely inofficial to the apache-repo I think this 
> >> >is a
> >> >good idea getting more ppl to validate it.
> >> >
> >> >kind regards,
> >> >andreas
> >> >
> >> >On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 01:58:30PM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
> >> >>+1 on the release branch with a time window to get stable, we might
> >> >>consider to release a Milestone at the starting point of such a
> >> >>branch. WDYT?
> >> >>
> >> >>Achim
> >> >>
> >> >>2011/2/4 Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>:
> >> >>>Big +1 from my side. I think 2-3 weeks should be sufficient.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>With the current release cycles of 2-3 month means pushig 2 month 
> >> >>>features
> >> >>>and than 2-3 weeks stabilizing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>kind regards,
> >> >>>andreas
> >> >>>
> >> >>>On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:01:59AM -0330, Jamie G. wrote:
> >> >>>>+1 for creating the Karaf 2.2.x branch now, and moving trunk version
> >> >>>>up to 2.99.99-SNAPSHOT. Perhaps we should state a policy of branching
> >> >>>>trunk in the lead up to a dot zero release X weeks before a planned
> >> >>>>release time? This would make early branching standard practice for
> >> >>>>Karaf.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Jamie
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Guillaume Nodet<[email protected]>  
> >> >>>>wrote:
> >> >>>>>Well, not sure why my environment works, but it does ...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>  
> >> >>>>>wrote:
> >> >>>>>>What we've discussed several times by now :) While the jdk14.asc 
> >> >>>>>>files are
> >> >>>>>>included in the install/deploy cycle the regular ones are not -->  I 
> >> >>>>>>cant release
> >> >>>>>>with those files missing
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>andreas
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:56:45AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>I can do that release.  What's the problem with the retrotranslator 
> >> >>>>>>>plugin ?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]>  
> >> >>>>>>>wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>Since pax-url uses the maven-translator-plugin I can't release 
> >> >>>>>>>>pax-url, but if
> >> >>>>>>>>someone else jumps in here I can push out pax-web
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>andreas
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:26:05AM +0100, Achim Nierbeck wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>+1 for the stable 2.2.x branch for releasing.
> >> >>>>>>>>>Regarding the removal of the assembly changes a +1 from me too.
> >> >>>>>>>>>Regarding Pax-web and pax-url as being the only SNAPSHOT version 
> >> >>>>>>>>>still
> >> >>>>>>>>>open, I'm
> >> >>>>>>>>>working on it but maven didn't like me last night, I wasn't able 
> >> >>>>>>>>>to
> >> >>>>>>>>>sign the jars.
> >> >>>>>>>>>Will try another run tonight. Or if someone wants to step up and 
> >> >>>>>>>>>help me
> >> >>>>>>>>>out on this, feel free. The latest version of pax-url and pax-web
> >> >>>>>>>>>available on Github
> >> >>>>>>>>>can be released. I can manage the release notes later tonight :)
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Regards, Achim
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>2011/2/4 Guillaume Nodet<[email protected]>:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>That could well be another valid option.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>David, can Geronimo live with a 2.99-SNAPSHOT for a while or 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>would
> >> >>>>>>>>>>that be needed soon ?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>I guess we could also release a bunch of RC somehow if needed for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>geronimo milestones.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 07:24, Andreas Pieber<[email protected]> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>+1 for doing so and the name. I think we are already very late 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>with this. We
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>should have forked about 4 weeks ago...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>BTW, I think we should consider removing assemlies and features 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>/assembly /
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>framework from 2.2.x. IMHO this requires more work and fine 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>tuning before
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>release
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Kind regards
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Andreas
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>On 4 Feb 2011 07:06, "Guillaume Nodet"<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>If there are no objections, I'll branch karaf-2.2.x now in 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>order to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>get the release stabilized as suggested by Andreas.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>This means any new development will occur in trunk which will 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>moved to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>2.99.99-SNAPSHOT ?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 04:34, Andreas 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Pieber<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>OK, there are many points in my head about this for some time 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>now and I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>hope I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>get them out straight here. If I'm not able to make any of my 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>points
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>clear don't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>hesitate to ask :)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>First of all I'm completely with Guillaume. I don't like the 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>way Karaf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>blows
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>up. We have a standard and an enterprise distribution and a 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>minimal
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>distribution
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>and in future one for android... STOP. I think this is not 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the way Karaf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>should go.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>In addition, tbh I also don't like the way client projects 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>(such as smx)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>have to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>tweak Karaf around to make it runnable. This makes everything 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>complex and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>not
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>easy to use understand/start with.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Next I think the root of all evil are our configuration 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>files. The need
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>that we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>have to tweak system.properties, custom.properties, 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>jre.properties,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>org...features.cfg to get a running, custom distribution. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>This does not
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>feel
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>right.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Fourth: I don't like that we need to use our own maven 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>plugins to build
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>Karaf is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>IMHO a sign that Karaf is becoming much too big...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Last but not least, I hate that I have to google for all 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>those feature
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>urls
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>and collect them locally to not forgetting them :)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>OK, so far to the problems. According to the mails I've read 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>by now I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>think I'm
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>not the only one aware of those problems :) -->  I would 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>propose some
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>roadmap
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>to get this straight again:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>1) branch off karaf-2.x branch now (independent of the 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>missing versions)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>stay as it is now. Some ppl already depend on 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>karaf-2.1.99-SNAPSHOT and I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>don't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>think that we'll make friends if we make any drastically 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>changes to this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>version.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>2) Start developing karaf-2.99.99-SNAPSHOT right now.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>3) As a first step I think we should add something like an 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>online
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>registry to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Karaf where feature files could be found. E.g. something like
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>karaf.apache.org/registry.xml. This would allow us to make 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Karaf behave
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>the same
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>without having to pack everything together during assembly 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>phase. Here it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>may
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>also help to add a features:addregistryurl command allowing 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>clients to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>host
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>their own registries.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>4) Move enterprise.features.xml into aries project, split
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>standard.features.xml
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>into the different projects: karaf-obr, karaf-ssh, ops4j-web 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>(e.g. with
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>jetty),
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>spring2, spring3, ... and create own projects for the 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>additional
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>components. I'm
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>with Jamie that this will complex the release process, but 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>IMHO
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>everything we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>create features files for shouldn't be in the core. As said 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>somehow I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>even don't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>like that we have features.xml in the core at all. All those 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>features.xml
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>to be added to the registry. This way we could guarantee that 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Karaf still
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>behaves the same although we've reduced the core
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>packages/repo/distribution.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>5) We have to extend the kar/features.xml model drastically 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>adding
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>variation
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>points for the different configuration possibilities in 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Karaf. E.g. we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>need a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>variation point for lib, jre.properties, etc/(to add 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>additional property
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>files),
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>system (where we drop additional .jre bundles, ...), 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>brandings, ... With
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>that some variation
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>points require Karaf to reboot (we couldn't change everything 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>runtime). Which
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>means we have to cache the changes and apply them on reboot. 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>In addition
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>I know
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>that there will be some pain in config file merging, but I 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>think this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>will be
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>worth the effort.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>6) Now that we've removed all the specific things from Karaf 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>we can
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>reduce the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>build process completely to one minimal distribution of Karaf 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>(at maximum
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>one
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>additional for android?!) without using the features concepts 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>directly in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>kernel. This will also allow us to develop the 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>karaf-maven-plugin
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>directly in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the kernel without the burden of forking the process anywhere.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>7) I think by that we're almost finished now. We can start 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>contributing
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>features/kar packages for cxf, apache ds, camel, ... and add 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>them again
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>to the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>registry. For this process the karaf-maven-plugin 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>could/should be used.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>8) Now a user will first of all create its own kar/features 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>which tweak
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>kernel as required. Finally he can either provide the 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>kar/features bundle
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>only.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The assembly process will (and should) always look like 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>(reduced):
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>karaf-maven-plugin
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>execution: distribution
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>kar-list (branding, docs, ... everything is a kar file, 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>nothing more
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>here)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>IMHO with all of this we can finally provide only one very 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>small
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>distribution.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Someone only experimenting/developing can do a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>features:install war, cfx, ds
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>admin:reboot
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else can create distributions as he likes.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>OK, I know that not all of those points are new or 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>exclusively by me,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>some go a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>little bit a different direction than discussed by now and 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>not all of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>them are
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>nailed down to the latest detail (by now). Please don't flame 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>me because
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>of this;
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I know that this is not the only way to go but it somehow 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>feels right to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>me :)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>so... wdyt?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>andreas
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 12:07:42AM +0100, Guillaume Nodet 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, the problem is that Karaf itself isn't a container for 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Camel or
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>CXF and we have some users that just want to plain JRE 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>without any
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>tweaks for running SAAJ because they don't care.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>ServiceMix on the other hand is dedicated to host such 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>applications,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>so that's why the default config works better.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm ok with the idea of profiles in karaf, but we need to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>make sure we
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't end up with having to include and depend on all apache 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>projects,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>as Karaf itself has imho no purpose of becoming a default 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>distribution
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>of CXF, Camel, ActiveMQ, Directory, etc...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think each project could easily provide a karaf features 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>so that
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>they would easily be deployed in a bare Karaf, but at some 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>point, it
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>does not really scale nor make sense to put everything back 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>into
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Karaf.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tweaking the system properties is sometimes needed depending 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>on what
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need to deploy, because OSGi is lacking on certain areas 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>(or
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>because the JVM isn't really modular, depending on how you 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>see
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>things).  Some people are happy with using the JAXB 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>implementation
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>from the JVM without being able to change it easily, some 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>people may
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>want to be able to deploy those as OSGi bundles.  Karaf 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>can't do both
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the same time.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Another point, is that the amount of third party 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>dependencies is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>becoming increasingly important in Karaf, and that's really 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>becoming a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>problem for simply releasing Karaf in an efficient manner.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>So I'm tempted to say that we should push back on those 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>projects and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>have them provide karaf features, rather than having karaf 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>providing
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>features for those.  I'm mostly thinking here about pax-web 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>and the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>war support (which is really cool, no doubt on that) and 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>aries and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>support for things we don't embed by default (jpa, etc..).
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I certainly don't have a good answer yet, but I just want to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>make sure
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone is aware of the potential problem.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>If we keep adding dependencies, our release cycles will 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>necessarily be
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>longer and longer ....  For example camel has a release 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>cycle of one
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>minor version every few months, ServiceMix even less, while 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>CXF has
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>much less external dependencies and manage to keep a high 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>frequency of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>releases.  2.2 could have been shipped early december, but 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>we were
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>waiting for aries.  Now aries has been released, but we 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>still have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>some snapshots dependencies on some felix or ops4j 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>components.  And
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>we've added stuff that's not completely stabilized.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Once again, I'm just trying to state facts so that everybody
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand the situation.  I'm personnaly not really happy 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>2.2 release is planned since 2 months but still can't get 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>out and I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>think it clearly means that we're going in a wrong direction 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>somehow
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>....
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sorry for the rant.  There are a bunch of unrelated things 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>here, ...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:29, Jean-Baptiste 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Onofré<[email protected]>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Claus already raised a Jira about that.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Guillaume wasn't very ok to set the jre.properties by 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>default.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On the other hand, I launched a discussion thread about 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Karaf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>profiles. It's
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>typically the kind of tuning which is part of a profiles.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Waiting for the profiles design, we can provide a Karaf 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Enterprise
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>distribution including this kind of tuning related to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Camel/CXF/SMX.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I add Karaf dev mailing list to see what the team says :)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regards
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JB
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 02/02/2011 11:21 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are these adapted jre.properties only usefull for 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Servicemix and the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Talend Service Factory or do you think it would make sense 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to change
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>them in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the karaf distribution.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Best regards
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Christian
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Von: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 11:02
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>An: [email protected]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Betreff: Re: AW: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, you can take a look on the ServiceMix one too :)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regards
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JB
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 02/02/2011 10:26 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think I was able to solve the problem. I had to change 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jre.properties to exclude some packages from the system 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bundle
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>export.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The jre.properties from the Talend Service Factory seem 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to work:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://de.talend.com/products-application-integration/talend-service-factory-community-edition.php
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Christian
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Von: Christian Schneider [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2011 09:52
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>An: [email protected]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Betreff: Problem when starting camel-cxf in karaf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi all,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am trying to run Apache Camel (feature camel-cxf) in 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Apache Karaf.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am using a fresh Karaf 2.1.3 download.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I start karaf and enter:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>features:addurl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/apache-camel/2.6.0/xml/features
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>features:install camel-cxf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I get an exception while starting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Unable to resolve 97.0: missing requirement [97.0] 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>package;
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any idea what I am doing wrong?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Christian
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----------------------
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>02.02.2011 09:46:08 org.apache.karaf.main.SimpleFileLock 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lock
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>INFO: locking
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:09,765 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>-
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Starting JMX OSGi agent
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:09,781 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>-
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Registering MBean with ObjectName
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3] for service with 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>service.id[10]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Bundle 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.command is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>waiting for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>namespace handlers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>[(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:09,796 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.osgi is 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>waiting for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>namespace handlers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>[(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:09,796 | WARN  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>-
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | There are no MBean servers registred, 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>can't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>register
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MBeans
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:09,890 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.console 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is waiting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>namespace handlers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>[(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://aries.apache.org/blueprint/xmlns/blueprint-ext/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:09,968 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.dev is 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>waiting for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>namespace handlers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>[(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:10,218 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.ssh is 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>waiting for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>namespace handlers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>[(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:10,234 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.admin.command 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is waiting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>namespace handlers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>[(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:10,250 | WARN  | rint Extender: 3 | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.commands 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is waiting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>namespace handlers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>[(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:10,375 | WARN  | rint Extender: 2 | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BlueprintContainerImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   | container.BlueprintContainerImpl  252 | 7 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.aries.blueprint -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.packages 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is waiting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>namespace handlers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>[(&(objectClass=org.apache.aries.blueprint.NamespaceHandler)(osgi.service.blueprint.namespace=
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>http://karaf.apache.org/xmlns/shell/v1.0.0))]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:11,609 | INFO  | Thread-5         | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FeaturesServiceImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>refresh:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:11,640 | INFO  | rint Extender: 3 | SecurityUtils
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | e.sshd.common.util.SecurityUtils   80 | 25 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sshd-core - 0.4.0 |
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BouncyCastle not registered, using the default JCE 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>provider
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:11,968 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>-
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Registering
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.osgi.jmx.framework.BundleStateMBean to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with name
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>osgi.core:type=bundleState,version=1.5
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>-
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Registering
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.osgi.jmx.framework.ServiceStateMBean to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with name
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>osgi.core:type=serviceState,version=1.5
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:12,000 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>-
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Registering 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.osgi.jmx.framework.FrameworkMBean
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with name
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>osgi.core:type=framework,version=1.5
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>-
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Registering
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.osgi.jmx.service.cm.ConfigurationAdminMBean to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MBeanServer
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 with name
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>osgi.compendium:service=cm,version=1.3
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:46:12,031 | INFO  | JMX OSGi Agent   | jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | ?                                   ? | 20 - 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.jmx
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>-
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.2.0.incubating | Registering
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.osgi.jmx.framework.PackageStateMBean to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MBeanServer com.sun.jmx.mbeanserver.JmxMBeanServer@6e3d60 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with name
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>osgi.core:type=packageState,version=1.5
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:08,234 | INFO  | l Console Thread | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FeaturesServiceImpl
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | res.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl  293 | 19 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.core - 2.1.3 | Bundles to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>refresh:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:08,656 | INFO  | l Console Thread | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ContextLoaderListener
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  356 | 44 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Starting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ExtenderConfiguration
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | al.support.ExtenderConfiguration  150 | 44 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | No custom 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>extender
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>configuration
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>detected; using defaults...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:08,781 | INFO  | l Console Thread | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TimerTaskExecutor
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  106 | 38 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.springframework.context
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- 3.0.5.RELEASE | Initializing Timer
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:09,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   83 | 51 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.camel.camel-core
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- 2.6.0 | Camel activator starting
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:09,312 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   86 | 51 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.camel.camel-core
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- 2.6.0 | Camel activator started
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   90 | 51 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.camel.camel-core
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopping
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:10,968 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Activator
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | apache.camel.impl.osgi.Activator   92 | 51 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.camel.camel-core
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- 2.6.0 | Camel activator stopped
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ContextLoaderListener
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | .activator.ContextLoaderListener  449 | 44 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.springframework.osgi.extender - 1.2.0 | Stopping
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[org.springframework.osgi.extender] bundle v.[1.2.0]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:11,984 | INFO  | l Console Thread | 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TimerTaskExecutor
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | heduling.timer.TimerTaskExecutor  179 | 38 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.springframework.context
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>- 3.0.5.RELEASE | Cancelling Timer
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>09:48:12,281 | INFO  | l Console Thread | Console
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  | araf.shell.console.jline.Console  188 | 11 -
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.shell.console - 2.1.3 | Exception caught 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>executing
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>command
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>java.lang.Exception: Could not start bundle
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>mvn:org.apache.servicemix.bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl/1.3.2_1
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in feature(s) camel-cxf-2.6.0: Unresolved constraint in 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bundle
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]: Unable to 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>resolve
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>97.0:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>missing requirement [97.0] package;
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:326)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:254)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeature(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:250)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.command.InstallFeatureCommand.doExecute(InstallFeatureCommand.java:51)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.command.FeaturesCommandSupport.doExecute(FeaturesCommandSupport.java:39)[9:org.apache.karaf.features.command:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.shell.console.OsgiCommandSupport.execute(OsgiCommandSupport.java:38)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.gogo.commands.basic.AbstractCommand.execute(AbstractCommand.java:35)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandProxy.execute(CommandProxy.java:50)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:229)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.executeStatement(Closure.java:162)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Pipe.run(Pipe.java:101)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.Closure.execute(Closure.java:79)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.gogo.runtime.shell.CommandSessionImpl.execute(CommandSessionImpl.java:71)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.shell.console.jline.Console.run(Console.java:170)[11:org.apache.karaf.shell.console:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)[:1.6.0_23]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Caused by: org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>constraint
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bundle org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saaj-impl [97]: 
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Unable to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>resolve 97.0:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>missing requirement [97.0] package;
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(package=com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.dom)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.resolveBundle(Felix.java:3409)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.framework.Felix.startBundle(Felix.java:1709)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:905)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.felix.framework.BundleImpl.start(BundleImpl.java:892)[org.apache.felix.framework-3.0.2.jar:]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>org.apache.karaf.features.internal.FeaturesServiceImpl.installFeatures(FeaturesServiceImpl.java:323)[19:org.apache.karaf.features.core:2.1.3]
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  ... 14 more
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>--
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Open Source SOA
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://fusesource.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>--
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Open Source SOA
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://fusesource.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>--
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Open Source SOA
> >> >>>>>>>>>>http://fusesource.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>--
> >> >>>>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>>>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>>>Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>>>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>>>Open Source SOA
> >> >>>>>>>http://fusesource.com
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>--
> >> >>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>Guillaume Nodet
> >> >>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> >>>>>------------------------
> >> >>>>>Open Source SOA
> >> >>>>>http://fusesource.com
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>
> >

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