Andreas Pieber wrote: > > In fact i proposed two things :-) one to cut down the number of > distributions into online and offline depending on the number of packages > they contain and virtually any number of distributions based on features > making them visible during the startup. The second one is to split the > "non-core" parts out of karaf to keep a sleek karaf core. > > It is neither exactly what Guillaume proposed, nor anybody else, but > rather > a mixture ;-) > > So I think this some up my ideas explained in more detail quite well. I am > currently on my mobile phone. I can write this down in more detail once I > am > back to my PC if required. > > Kind regards Andreas > On May 4, 2011 7:15 PM, "mikevan" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Andreas Pieber wrote: >>> >>> In fact I think we should take a look how far we really want to break >>> down the various components. What really should be extracted. Although >>> there are various possibilities to split Karaf I would roughly suggest >>> something like: management, web, clustering, spring (to finally get >>> the spring things out of the "real" core :)). Since there are 13 PMCs >>> (if Jamie stays at releasing karaf-core there are still 12 remaining) >>> I think it should be possible to find 4 PMCs willing to take over the >>> release process for those components. I have no problem taking one >>> myself (which means 3 remaining :))... >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Andreas >>> >>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Jamie G. >>> <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> The website just requires committer status. >>>> >>>> According to this a PMC is 'preferred', as the PMCs are responsible >>>> for their projects distribution directory at Apache. >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jamie >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:49 PM, mikevan >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> jgoodyear wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> As a reminder our release process is posted here: >>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/index/developers/release-guide.html >>>>>> >>>>>> To my knowledge those instructions should be sufficient to allow >>>>>> anyone the ability to perform a Karaf release, the only caveat I >>>>>> believe is that they have committer status as its required to perform >>>>>> tags & uploads (not sure if PMC is required or not when it comes to >>>>>> nexus). >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Jamie >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jamie G. >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Very true Mike. I've been picking up release duties as required. I >>>>>>> have no claim at all to doing them other than if/when I'm actively >>>>>>> assigned and working upon a particular release Jira task. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Jamie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:04 PM, mikevan >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christian Schneider wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think clustering is important enough to be part of the >>>>>>>>> enterprise >>>>>>>>> features. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am 04.05.2011 14:01, schrieb Ioannis Canellos: >>>>>>>>>> Guys, we are getting off topic. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Even though I like Guillaume's ideas about central repository >>>>>>>>>> etc, >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> still hypothetical since the mechanism is not implemented yet and >>>>>>>>>> thus >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> can't base our decisions on that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What we currently have is standard/enterprise features >>>>>>>>>> descriptor. >>>>>>>>>> What I >>>>>>>>>> am >>>>>>>>>> saying is that clustering should be part of the enterprise > features >>>>>>>>>> descriptor *(and probably hosted as subproject)*. Once we > implement >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> central repository mechanism we can move it there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Guillaume >>>>>>>>>> Nodet<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-reality.de >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subprojects sounds like a good idea on the face, but it really >>>>>>>> comes >>>>>>>> down to >>>>>>>> a management issue. Who is going to be responsible for each >>>>>>>> sub-project? >>>>>>>> Right now we have a few folks who are working on Karaf in addition > to >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> open-source projects. IMHO, we should not have a sub-project >>>>>>>> unless >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> someone willing to be responsible for it. I also don't think Jamie >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> be that one person for all sub-projects. However, if we can get >>>>>>>> folks >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> accept responsiblity for them, I think its a great idea. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> Mike Van (aka karafman) >>>>>>>> Karaf Team (Contributor) >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>> > http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Subprojects-was-VOTE-Add-Cellar-into-Karaf-trunk-tp2897884p2899307.html >>>>>>>> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hmm.. I thought PMC was required for a release, or is that just for >>>>> the >>>>> site? >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Van (aka karafman) >>>>> Karaf Team (Contributor) >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> > http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Subprojects-was-VOTE-Add-Cellar-into-Karaf-trunk-tp2897884p2899495.html >>>>> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> Is this different than what Guillaume originally suggested? The original >> suggestion seemed aimed more at creating customer distributions of Karaf, >> and this seems like breaking up optional functionality into >> subprojects... > >> I'm a tad confused. >> >> ----- >> Mike Van (aka karafman) >> Karaf Team (Contributor) >> -- >> View this message in context: > http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Subprojects-was-VOTE-Add-Cellar-into-Karaf-trunk-tp2897884p2899744.html >> Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
I like this approach, Andreas. ----- Mike Van (aka karafman) Karaf Team (Contributor) -- View this message in context: http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Subprojects-was-VOTE-Add-Cellar-into-Karaf-trunk-tp2897884p2899862.html Sent from the Karaf - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
