I agree, I think karaf should be easily configurable (perhaps through assembly 
a custom server) to support whatever spec versions you want.

Is there any actual documentation of the karaf-activator stuff and clear 
details on what goes wrong with spec-bundles?

Some of these problems may be caused by unspecified package versions for spec 
packages.  People at osgi have talked about figuring out some recommendations 
but I don't think anyone has actually worked on it yet.

thanks
david jencks

On Dec 26, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:

> On Monday, December 26, 2011 8:13:39 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> Once again, a lot of karaf users just want OSGi.  People who want to deploy
>> cxf or camel should be targetted to ServiceMix instead.
> 
> This is where I STRONGLY disagree with you.   If people want to deploy CXF or 
> Camel into OSGi, we should be working on making that easier and work better 
> if 
> at all possible, not point them off to another project.    Installing CXF 
> should just be a features:addurl and a features:install.    People may 
> already 
> have OSGi based applications that they want to add CXF or Camel services 
> into.   
> They definitely shouldn't be required to switch to ServiceMix for that.
> 
> I'm hoping your activator idea can really get us there.   If that works well, 
> then I'm hoping the above can really become a reality.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Monday, December 26, 2011, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Agree Ioannis,
>>> 
>>> I think that 95% of the users don't know the issue, the jre.properties,
>> 
>> etc :)
>> 
>>> They just want to use Camel or CXF directly in Karaf.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> 
>>> On 12/26/2011 04:13 PM, Ioannis Canellos wrote:
>>>> Is there any chance that there are users that prefer the jre packages
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> From what I understand most Karaf users will not use them at all,
>>>> but I
>> 
>> am
>> 
>>>> not sure about it.
>>>> 
>>>> If most of our users, will disable them anyway, I see no reason not
>>>> doing it ourselves ( +1 ).
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
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> Daniel Kulp
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