As far as I know the by far most popular usage of Karaf is for CXF and Camel. So I think it makes sense to handle that case specially. My proposal with two different features would handle the general case quite smoothly and still provide the convenience for camel and cxf users. We could even extend that to more common use cases and also remove those exports from the system bundle and replace them with fragements for the basic case and special bundles when they need to be enhanced.

Of course I also agree that we should keep searching for a better way but in the mean time this would really improve the out of the box experience for users.

Christian

Am 26.12.2011 20:13, schrieb Guillaume Nodet:
Once again, a lot of karaf users just want OSGi.  People who want to deploy
cxf or camel should be targetted to ServiceMix instead.

On Monday, December 26, 2011, Jean-Baptiste Onofré<[email protected]>  wrote:
Agree Ioannis,

I think that 95% of the users don't know the issue, the jre.properties,
etc :)
They just want to use Camel or CXF directly in Karaf.

Regards
JB

On 12/26/2011 04:13 PM, Ioannis Canellos wrote:
Is there any chance that there are users that prefer the jre packages ?
  From what I understand most Karaf users will not use them at all, but I
am
not sure about it.

If most of our users, will disable them anyway, I see no reason not doing
it ourselves ( +1 ).

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