+1

Regards
JB

On 05/13/2013 09:46 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
AFAIK, all jar files in the lib folder are added to the classpath, so if
anyone want to add jars globally without using bundles, that's the way to
go.
See
https://github.com/apache/karaf/blob/trunk/main/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/main/Main.java#L266

The lib/ext lib/endorsed and lib/karaf-*.jar are used to create the JVM
application classloader and make sure the initial environment is quite safe
and undisturbed.
All other lib/*.jar files are added to the classloader used to create the
OSGi framework and should be available

For JDBC drivers, they need to be available from the application
classloader, so what could be done without changing the current behavior
and introducing incompatibilities is to add a lib/app/ folder which would
be added to the application classloader (i.e. in the shell scripts).

Thoughts ?



2013/5/13 Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>

Hi,

ok, I'd like to get the discussion into the dev-list away from the jira
issue :-)

Now, I've heard both sides of the story and tbh, it's not an easy thing
here.
I agree that it's not a understandable solution to have bootloaded jars
with a karaf- prefix.
I'm not sure about the bundle looking for external jars in the lib folder,
it feels almost like an
extra file-installer thing bound to the lib folder.
@Dan could you please elaborate your use-case for placing your custom
libraries in this folder
and how you use them?

I also agree that a JDBC driver should be used as a bundle and not like a
bootloader jar, though I'm not sure
if this is also doable for the failover configuration.
One of the comments mentioned that it might be a better solution to look
for bootloaded jars in the
lib/karaf folder. Right now to me it sounds most likely to be the only
working solution. Especially since we
do have those "extra" bundles that are managed by the karaf main class.

regards, Achim


2013/5/13 Freeman Fang <[email protected]>

I'm also concerned about this change, added my comment in KARAF-1545
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On 2013-5-13, at 下午1:53, Dan Tran wrote:

Hi,

I have addressed my concerns on this enhancement, and would like to
hear
more from dev group.

Big Thanks

-Dan




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